2p multiway vs aggression in 3bet pot
Join Date: Aug 2012
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A friend was asking me about this hand he played at 1/2 and I thought it was pretty interesting and a really tough spot.
V1 in this hand is BB. My friend thinks he's quite good but was possibly a bit steamed at the time of the hand (I think he's just a bad lag).
V2 is BTN. I haven't played with hum much and thought he was just a solid nit but my friend said he's actually really good, probably the best player at the table if on the tighter side.
Hero and BB have around $500 and BTN covers.
Hero opens KTo to $10, BTN apparently picks up chips like he's thinking about raising but just calls. BB 3 bets to $32, hero calls (?), BTN calls.
Flop comes KQTr and BB continues for $62. Hero calls (?), BTN calls.
Turn KQT 7r. BB bets $130. Hero (?).
Seems like a pretty gross spot deep. I just want to fold at basically every decision point in the hand but not sure. How do you guys play this?
Join Date: Aug 2013
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Pre depends on position.
If we're in EP then it's a fold both times. If we're in late position then opening is fine but fold to the 3bet.
Flop is a fold against most villians.
Turn is too.
Join Date: Aug 2012
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Oops, hero opens in the HJ
Join Date: Apr 2012
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Open from HJ is OK. Fold to the 3 bet unless hero thinks V1 is really steaming and will lose his stack with one pair post flop.
As played I probably call the flop bet. It depends on history but villain can be betting AK/AQ on the flop plus some chance of c-betting air. But when V2 comes along and V1 continues on turn I probably find a fold. Depending on my read I might be more worried about V2 then V1 but I'm not liking the situation.
Join Date: Sep 2014
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Can't understand how flop is a fold. We block almost all V's set combos, and he's unlikely to have AJ - while it should be in a LAG's 3bet range pre, most people just don't do it.
By the turn it's down to reads. Is V the type to b/f AA/AK here? If not then he's polarized.
Join Date: May 2012
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Fold pre since you're likely going 3 ways with a hand that isn't very good in multiway or 3 bet pots. If you had k10ss I think I would peel.
Can't fold flop, can't really raise either so i like the call.
OTT 3bettor is repping pretty thin in hero's eyes when we hold the k10 But the vast majority of 1-3 villains just have it in these spots especially when the pot goes 3 way. I think with v2 behind I would fold and not tell anyone.
If button had folded the flop I think you have to call at least one more street.
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Calling the preflop 3 bet is really ugly. Really really ugly.
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KTo from the HJ is marginal at best, especially considering there are no limpers to isolate. Like what are you trying to accomplish here? This ain’t a tournament and you don’t need to be stealing the blinds from the HJ at 1/2. I think it’s alright from the CO and fine from the BTN, but just let it go on the HJ.
As played fold to 3!. KTo is garbage and you have a tight player behind and a strong range up front.
Join Date: Dec 2017
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You do not open KTo from EP or MP so that you do not have difficult decisions to make postflop.