LOL. I have more than 8,000 posts. I've read a few of Amanaplan's posts. That's what made his first post here so annoying.

I’ve never played with a rock (don’t even know how it works actually) OR with a BTN straddle (and while I think I would like that game, I think UTG straddling is better for the game).

Preflop is good. Flop stab is probably acceptable if they’re just ckf a ton. But expecting then to bet turn w a flush so you can raise and then call is a little much. Stomping is stomping I suppose. Still the river is a call for me.

Yeah for sure I meant spew from Vs side too.

This

I don't like the reverse set-mine pre with small PP against loose passive opponents described as sticky with med stacks. FE important when you know the flop is going to miss you 85% of the time.

I'm not sure I understand your statement on the turn? I would have folded to a bet.

Liquidator, as I wrote, my c-bets almost always get through. Once a passive player calls, I'm basically done. I just happened to bink the river. Probably should have just called his bet, though.

The other thing to do is look at this from his end. I'm perceived as tight. Usually my raises and bets are respected (but they do call wide hoping to hit). He NEVER puts me on a hand that beats him on the river, although I think his shove was a bad idea (for him). It is possible I had a set or AhKh, although I probably would have bet turn, which he knows.

Javanewt: I like the BTN raise against known Vs and exploiting your established image. As a general rule, I think Lapidator has a valid point.

So I’m wondering what you ranged your V on when he led the river? How did this impact your river decision? Thanks!

I'd just overlimp pre. I personally don't like to raise those minipairs after two limps, not even on the button.

Expecting villain to donkbet a flush on the turn is really weird. That would not be standard at all. Therefore (not only therefore, also just in general) raise/calling bottom set on the river is beyond bad on this board. You don't want to hear that, but it just is. You're basically extremely lucky you found an opponent clueless enough to bet/shove two pair (assuming he's not bluffing anyway), but even guys that clueless still have you beat the vast majority of the time with a line like that.

This all was kinda my original take as well, including pre.
As a side note, I love donk betting made turn flushes for this reason. As a made hand and as a bluff.
Pre I generally prefer to setmine against a few players with 22-44ish (depending, but yes, even on the button), because to me the following is true:
A) I don’t want them all to fold pre. I have a potential stack someone hand.
B) When I do hit, it’s easy to play on the BTN against multiple players.
C) When I do hit, a couple/three players means greater potential for top pair/top two type hands.
D) When I don’t hit, I usually just have to fold to bets postflop, even when opening pre (however the counter argument here is that opening pre usually means flop gets checked to you, and you often get a free turn when you want.)

I get why you cbet this board, after opening pre. Just bet flop and hope the hands ends there. But there’s a ton of hands that call a $20 cbet there.
This is the other side of the coin.

And I do think I agree about river being a fold. I do like a raise for a bit of extra value there, but once V shoves, you really should beat nothing there against a somewhat intelligent or even average V. V’s river shove is super bad here.

I think the non-nits just dont understand how profitable this is in live poker OTB pre and flop (assuming you have the right Vs). I think the hand is well played until the river. The river has been well parsed already so I wont beat a dead horse.

I think the issue here is that it's an "edge case" in mathematical terms. It's potentially dangerous to map/extrapolate what Javanewt did here to a general case.

The main benefit of this forum is to find more general cases that can help everyone. Through her image, sangfroid and specific command of her table, she MacGuyver'd her way to a big win. But I think most of us would have ended up as dead as Elvis taking this line against most of our Vs with our images. So it's a poor general case but a very cool hand.

Yeah, I dunno. I mix it up in this spot pre with 22.
I can’t say I know which is better.
Really seems to depend on specific V’s and their main weaknesses.

Then open 100% of hands OTB until they readjust, right?

You said you raised river because he ‘would have bet turn with a flush’ - that argument doesn’t fly with me.

A huge aspect to consider, what does it look like our hero has? When he checks the turn it looks like he is scared of the flush or 10-8, or just cbet air and has basically given up unless he improves. Frankly, the villain has a great spot to bluff, and your hand is under-repped otr. The river reraise and call boils down to two factors: is he capable of bluffing at appropriate times when the board is wet and you look weak, and, can you include two pair in his reraise range otr. If you don't know him well, then I would just call the river and leave out the reraise.