Hero 755ish-- Just a lot of folding and one hand that villain paid a ton of attention to was when a loose fit/fold guy limped and a couple other limps. I raised to 45 in the sb w/KQo, only the loose fitfold guy called. OTF I cbet 55 A83dd and TAG villain who isn't in the hand paid close attention and gave me a funny look. Fit fold guy ended up calling otf then I check folded a Q turn when fitfold bet 100.

Tag Villain college poker bro likes to use poker terms 1.2k Saw him open T8ss from ep and then get 1 street w/ middle pair 3 way. Also saw him raise ott 3 way after the flop checked through when he was the pfr, fifold guy bet 50, lag woman called, then he raised to 200 with TT on the KJ3Tsss. Has 3! about 3/4 times in the past hour

Villain opens from mp to 20(which is what he always does in terms of sizing, hero 3! to 65 w/ A9o, folds around to villain who calls.

Flop is A98r. Villain checks, hero bets 65, villain calls.
Turn T. Villain checks, hero bets 150, villain calls.
river 3. Villain waits about 15 seconds shoves

easiest fold ever or should we be calling here always?

You have a pretty bad hand for the 3! pre, you're 3betting way too much if A9o is in your range.

Villain is jamming about pot sized, he could easily be doing it with a worse two pair. I'm not folding here. He is representing super strong but we beat some of that range + he sounds like someone who may spazz out here with like JTs.

did you read villain's description? He's opened early with T8s. He's wide enough for a 3bet and A9 is a good hand to 3bet a wide opener light with.

As played I would call.

What is Hero's position in this hand?

I don't even know what V is representing here. I don't think he has many sets in his range. if he perceives you as tight, and you barrel twice on an A-high board, he's gotta be raising the flop or turn for fat value with any of his premium value hands: 99, 88,TT, JQ.

This feels more like a A3 that thinks he just rivered AK and is betting for value, or possibly a TJ, 9J, 8J type of hand that V has decided to turn into a bluff. Or he has another 2-pair hand, put you on a big Ace, didn't think you would fold at any point and just wanted to wait for the river to get the money in in case his 2-pair got counterfeited.


it's a call.

It's always a fold without much much more info - basic reading wise, he should be aware on some level that you still have AA in your range, and it's a standard fish value line which he may be using as a level, but he still has to have complete air for you to win. (Unless you have more info than what's being shared)

You way overplayed your hand btw, and considering he has all the straights, I wouldn't be bluff catching my stack here.. Nice way to go broke.

You realize he flopped top 2, right? outside of perhaps the 3-bet pre, which is slightly marginal but not terrible against a wide range, I can't see how he "overplayed his hand" by going for 2 streets of value with two-pair.

Also, while Hero does have AA in his range, he has a lot more combos of AK and AQ in his range as well. Depending on how V views hero he may believe that Hero can fold AK, in which case he has semi bluffs in his range (8j,9j,tj, 8q,9q,tq, 87,97,T7), or he may believe that Hero could not fold AK on the river, in which case he has a bunch of 2-pair combos in his range that are shoving for value.

I did. Unless we're flatting ATo/AJo vs this EP open, those are better 3betting hands, as are various Kxs and Qxs hands, 45s-56s type hands. Unless we want to be 3betting near 20% we want to avoid having too many offsuit hands in our default 3betting range.

he opened from MP. vs an UTG/UTG+1 open, I would fold. However I would 3bet A9o before 45s.

That is fine if you expect people to 4b or fold vs your 3b, but especially live people flat a lot, and flat with hands like AJ+, which makes A9o especially bad. You cannot call with 45s pre profitably, but it can flop a lot of equity, plus increases your strength on low boards.


If you make your 3betting range too A/K heavy, villains will be able to play very well vs your range oop. Instead we should play a heavily shaved range that gives us a lot of board coverage, with emphasis on suited cards since they can flop a lot of equity. A9o/ATo/AJo are fine hands to 3b with a small % if you are flatting all of your Axs hands pre, but hopefully we aren't calling A6s vs an open like this as a default, so we can move it into our 3betting range and trade blocking 99 (a hand we don't really want to block that much, as it will often call and c/f flop) for nut suitedness, which is much better.


My 3betting range here would be something like QQ+/AK (value, ~30 combos because I'll flat some % with AK especially and QQ-KK less often) and 60 air combos involving 25% AJo/KQo/KJo Kxs, Axs, Q8-9s, small suited connectors, small pocket pairs, and larger 1 gappers that I can't flat.

I don't agree that it makes it bad when they flat with hands that are ahead of us, even small PP's bc they miss the flop the majority of the time, we cbet, they fold, and we scoop pure profit (or they float since they test us to see if we also misses with AK, we barrel the turn, and make even more profit) obv board texture dependent.

also I am not flatting 45s, I would just fold it heads up.

The times they miss and we cbet and they fold, our hand does not matter at all (minus blocker effects, which apply more preflop).

I hope your strategy in 3bet pots isn't to double barrel 100% of the time, as obviously you'll get wrecked. It helps to double barrel with equity. 45s flops more realizable equity then A9o.

Finally, it isn't a choice between 45s and A9o, as there are 12 A9o combos and only 4 45s combos. It is 45s + K9s + 86s vs A9o. Though personally I'm only playing 1-2 combos of each suited hand I add to my 3bet range for more board coverage.

Offsuit cards in general are trash. There I said it. Trashy trash

hero is in the CO

Did the turn complete the rainbow? If it didn't, what are the two cards of the same suit on the board?

I also assume it didn't hit on the river.

These are important things because it can help determine if Villain may be bluffing.

pre is bad.
I´m not folding. looks like random button clicking or straight.

turn completed rainbow

PF is an overplay, the VBs aren't obviously, but these .5 pot sizing choices are pretty bad against Vs range particularly once this pot is inflated PF.

As for calling riv, well, hero's sizing leaves some perceived FE otr so that any clown with some poker experience can find some riv bluffs that take this line given they shouldn't have many bluffs/it's a LLSNL value line/ the board favors the PF caller. Here, we also have OPs inclusion of the KQ/Stink eye HH which is inferred to mean V is a non believer which would further suggest that we call ~500 and win enough times doing so. Even still, AP, with 500 back, I'm just not bluff catching without significantly more info than this, even when he could be value betting A9/A3 in his own mind... Even a hand like 99 has problems facing a shove here blocking so many of valuey/bluff combos we'd like V to have, but it's still a call as long as SOME bluffs/88/A8-T are part of a range he might play this way... That was a ramble, but I stopped calling off stacks in these spots long ago without requisite info...so go ahead and exploit me.