Hero: 450 white 20 yr old hoodie. I look somewhat aggressive. I raised a QQA flop with a flush draw. We checked the turn. I made my flush on the river and they saw the cards. Who knows if they noticed but I think this guy deffinitely could have.

Villain: 250 white 50 yr old. Seems pretty capable. I don't know how else to put it I've played one orbit.

Preflop: Limp, Hero looks at KQ in CO and makes it 12. SB calls. Villain calls out of the BB. and limper calls.

Flop: (45) T83

Checks around.

Turn: (45) T83J

Checks to Villina who bets 25. Fold to me, I call. SB folds.

River: (95) T83jK

Villain bets 50. Hero??

All input appreciated. Super interested to hear whether or not anyone like raising the turn.

No, not raising the turn. I fold the river and feel ok about it. You don't beat much that he can barrel the river with IMO.

It would be a hero call OTR here. as you are likely facing KJ at a minimum.

I might try raise-folding the turn with the hopes of checking down the river for showdown value against AdJ or QJ. Obv fold river when he leads.

But the more conservative route is what you did: call turn, fold (hopefully) river.

I can't understand why you checked the flop in the first place, though. Mistake IMO.

Tough decision but not a lot of $ at risk. I'd call. Fold is reasonable though.

IMO you showed weakness post flop and figured J was scare card. When you called, he figured you were still scared. Pure speculation. For all we know, he could've flopped trips.

Your play wasn't conservative but it was passive, and you might have put yourself in a position to get pushed around by a bigger stack.

If you're in this type of situation again, try betting the flop after everybody else checks (size $30-$40) or raising Villain on the turn once you picked up some outs (aim for 2.5-3x his bet). Try either one but not both. Might seem risky but you may get some surprising results.

How'd this hand turn out?

nm I misread post

yeah, I'd bet the flop in that scenario but AP I'd fold the river and not worry about the few times he had J9 or some random small PP. You let him in by checking the flop.

Raise turn

River is close, but i prob sigh call

I would Fold the river, for someone to put you on an aggressive table image I do not think you can be anything on his range if he's capable of playing your image.

Raising on the turn would be an interesting thought, but what if you raised into his made flush there and gets played back, then you wouldn't really have odds to draw out on him, I like the call behind.

NH, now fold.

Thanks for the input everyone. Lot of different opinions

Turn raise is FoS.
You 100% cbet with any flush draw IP you raised pre with, especially having been aggressive with them in the past.
Probably folding river, he's got air or you beat.

Not sure why some people are criticizing the flop check. You are four handed, have K high, and have a reputation for being aggressive. I think C-betting flop is burning $.

ValueBluff, Thanks for being the voice of reason. These other posters were starting to worry me.

To be clear, I am perfectly fine with giving up on the flop and agree that a cbet is not justified. However, if you would even consider a $50 call on the river, if you're going to play this hand, you should have cbet, is my thinking.

AK just got there and Lillian is still betting into you. Clear fold. Your good here against a fish but not any respectful opponent.

I have quit cbetting 4 handed. So I like the check on flop. I actually like a fold on the turn. We don't know if K or Q on river will be good. (Not much value if it is)...and a flush is never getting paid off.

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Nevermind not folding turn. I see we also have gut shot draw.

Still folding river though

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pretty simple fold and raising turn is very bad.

agree. call on turn is ok, clear fold on river. raise on turn is also bad, since no way does villain think we actually have the flush, or we would have bet flop.

The fish always call with their bad top pair. He's not betting into you with anything you beat. Well played, just let it go.