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Old 02-07-2014, 03:44 PM   #1
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$200 NL - KTo in bb - RVR line check

My opponent is a semi-loose passive player. He is capable of bluffing with some missed draws and shows down to many hands otr. If he flops tpgk type hand he will hardly ever fold. My image is tight.

Stacks:
Hero: $200
Villain covers hero

Preflop:
Hero is dealt KdTh in bb
Four limps and hero checks

Flop: (Th - 7h - 3c) pot:$10
Hero bets $10, villain calls $10, mp calls $10

Turn: (Th - 7h - 3c)- Qc pot:$40
Hero bets $30, villain calls $30, mp folds

RVR: (Th - 7h - 3c)- Qc - 6c pot:$100
Hero bets $40, villain raises to $100 hero folds.
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Old 02-07-2014, 04:36 PM   #2
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River fold. Too many limped hands are way ahead.

I would prefer to c/c flop, maybe donk the turn. Leading three streets with TP turned MP we've bloated the pot with A marginal hand.
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Old 02-07-2014, 04:47 PM   #3
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People generally play straightforward in limp pots. V isn't bluffing here often imo. The call call raise line is generally strength. I think I would check the tune when the Q hits and call a turn bet but be inclined to fold river of V bets
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Old 02-07-2014, 05:05 PM   #4
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Re: $200 NL - KTo in bb - RVR line check

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People generally play straightforward in limp pots. V isn't bluffing here often imo. The call call raise line is generally strength. I think I would check the tune when the Q hits and call a turn bet but be inclined to fold river of V bets
I agree that people generally play straight forward in MW pots. In light of that why check OTT? Remember the description of villain: he calls down too much especially with top pair type hands. A good chuck of his range still includes JT, T9 and draws. I would expect this player to raise QT OTT every time. I think leading the turn causes me to win an extra bet when I am ahead and fold when I am behind. A c/c causes me to miss a bet when I am ahead and lose the same amount when I am behind and I get raised.
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Old 02-07-2014, 05:09 PM   #5
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Re: $200 NL - KTo in bb - RVR line check

limp pre is fine, KTo is too weak too raise pre OOP with that many people. great sizing on flop, turn is a bet fold as well. checking just gives a free card and you can still get value from worse. id bet fold $25 to $28 on the turn. we still want worse to call and $30+ just looks psychologically much bigger. river as played, if he doesnt exploit blocking bets, id bet fold $35 into $100. not only does it make it less likely he will bluff us, but it also encourages weaker Ts to call. once you bet $40 or more, i think villain may find a fold a lot of the time unless he is very very loose.
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Old 02-07-2014, 05:10 PM   #6
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Re: $200 NL - KTo in bb - RVR line check

89, QT, backdoor clubs, and slowplayed two pairs+ are all hands he could easily have and they all beat you. fold to any raise on river
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Old 02-07-2014, 05:12 PM   #7
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Re: $200 NL - KTo in bb - RVR line check

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I agree that people generally play straight forward in MW pots. In light of that why check OTT? Remember the description of villain: he calls down too much especially with top pair type hands. A good chuck of his range still includes JT, T9 and draws. I would expect this player to raise QT OTT every time. I think leading the turn causes me to win an extra bet when I am ahead and fold when I am behind. A c/c causes me to miss a bet when I am ahead and lose the same amount when I am behind and I get raised.
checking the turn is a mistake. only QT and Qxhh got there so you almost always have the best hand. also like you said you're just giving a free card and you're calling a turn bet anyways so may as well bet to get value from worse. if he folds, he surrenders his equity, if he calls, you likely have the best hand. win win for you
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