Sitting with around 600 at a 9handed 2/4 game, a lot of loose limping going on.
Villian just sat down with about 200bb, is known as a reg.

Villian sits in MP and jumps into the game, pays 1bb.

UTG+1 limp, Villian checks, BTN Hero raises to 24 with A4, UTG+1 folds and Villian calls

Flop: (58) JT2

Villian checks, Hero checks

Turn: (58) 4

Villian bets 40, Hero calls 40

River: (138) 4

Villian bets 130, Hero raises to 330?


Probably should've folded the turn, but the river seems to good to not raise.
Opinions?

Would definitely raise the river. Would have played every other street differently but I do like the river raise.

Definitely raising that river as played so I like that play. As long as you're cbetting frequently Im good with the flop check. You have no draws, the board slightly favors him, he can call with tons of draws, so it's not a terrible pot to just give up and see a turn. Turn I'd just fold given the previous logic and the fact he (should) be betting again on almost every river.

I actually don't mind the way it was played. I don't even mind the call on the turn considering he checked the flop. Raise on river is a must.

Hate pf, flop and turn. Of course u raise the river.

I would have folded preflop
folded the turn
as played raise the river

Why do you guys hate pre so much? Unless UTG+1 calls wide or 3bet light (ditto the blinds), I think the raise is fine and good. V just sat and posted 1bb and limped -- I highly doubt he has a great hand. What hand are you waiting for to do this with on the BTN?

I can get behind betting flop, but I don't mind checking a lot of hands here. TJ smacks his limp/calling range. Turn is fine. He could have hit flop, but he could also be taking a stab at our weakness on flop or betting a flush draw.

in a 1-2 game raising is fine
higher stakes , more players are aware btn will raise light and can push you off the hand.
op didn't say he knows V's style; just that he's known as a reg and he just sat down so calling turn bet is weak at best you gotta know your behind here 90% of the time
A high my be best pre with no kicker
no equity on flop
turn 4 even thou improves you still leaves little to no equity
you got AAA44 for river outs easy fold on turn

So, at higher stakes (I have a problem thinking 2/4 is much different from 1/3, but whatever), V (who posted 1bb, so limping was a no-brainer) is betting the turn with a better hand but there is no way he is just trying to push H off his hand since H showed weakness? Does not compute, especially since you think at this level they might try to push you off your hand -- or is that only pre-flop?

V limp/called pre, so his hand probably isn't that strong -- at best he could have JT or a small PP. However, V could have anything here and floating turn and re-evaluating river is fine. If you are folding the turn here every time, you are so exploitable (especially at "higher" levels). I would bet a lot of hands on the turn after H checked flop.

Range for V that we beat on turn: AcXc, 98, KQ, 54, 64, a few other club combos. The guy just sat down in MP and posted instead of waiting, so he probably has a little gamble in him.

I'm making assumptions based on the little amount of info given .
he limped then called your raise.
I'm assuming he checked the flop waiting to check raise op's C-bet
then when a non threating 4 comes V can't depend on OP to bet so he takes the lead.
could speculate further with more info on V
is V able to bluff turn or a nit only betting when connects?
no info to go on
lets look at it another way
you got 5 outs if behind
if you brick the river do you call a river bet from V with your hand?
if not then why commit $40 on 5 outs

OK, so you think 2/4 is playing at a higher level than 1/2 or 1/3, but you don't think V can bluff the turn?

I'm making assumptions on the fact that V is a reg, posted and limped in, called a raise, then checked the flop. Once H checks behind on the flop, V can bet any hand on the turn. H just happened to get a little piece of it, which I'd float with basically always unless I had more info on V, who is a reg (as in reg in the game, not reg as in good player) who posted in MP and called a raise!

Plus, if we are behind and we do bink the river, we have a great, disguised hand. V should not have JJ or TT here, and if he has 22, we are in trouble, but he should have donked the flop.

We can agree to disagree, though.

I'm simply saying we know hero rivered trips so it changes thinking.
without knowing the river and before committing any chips on the turn what is your plan on the river if you bink and V bets $90-125 ???
after all you only have a pair of 4's and 5 outs to improve
ME ? I like to play thru different lines of action before calling, raising, folding
like a flow chart process, ( and no I don't hold up the game doing this )
most can be done while other player is cutting out chips
I wouldn't call the turn and watch a 3 come on the river and then fold to a river bet for example.
I much prefer the line of raising the turn or folding, as almost zero equity in calling

Fully endorse Javanewt ITT (and pretty much every other) and you should too.

So, why are you raising turn? For value? To fold a better hand?

Thank you very much! (I was having a bad day, and your post made I much better )

If you're going to raise river, just shove. Looks more bluffy since wtf can you have other than JJ/TT, both of which would raise turn? So many missed draws, might as well size it up and go for it all. Sucks if V had a boat but whatcha gonna do.....also fold pre.

I wouldn't raise pre, though I don't think it's terrible. I'd be on board if it were suited or if we had some useful reads on UTG+1.

I think the preflop discussion is getting sidetracked by V (since he ended up calling). When considering a raise here, I wouldn't really be thinking about him at all, since he probably doesn't have a particularly good hand. I'd be thinking about the UTG+1 limper and whether he's likely to call, has a history of L/RR, what his EP limping range is, etc.

I'm fine with either cbetting this flop or checking it back. We've got roughly nothing and are unlikely to improve, which argues for continuing the aggression. But this flop hits a calling range fairly well, which argues for checking back. But we're against only one V, which argues for continuing the aggression. We should probably employ a mixed strategy, sometimes cbetting, sometimes checking it back, which means either is fine in any particular instance (as long as the long term ratio is kept reasonable).

I'm probably calling the turn also. We've shown weakness, so V could be taking a stab. We have a few outs and maybe some implied odds. I think folding is also reasonable.

I'm raising the river. It's not likely V has JJ or TT. J4, T4, and 24 are also pretty unlikely IMO. So the only reasonable hand beating us is 22. If he has something like a pair, he's probably not calling a raise. If he does have the boat, it's all going in and we'll have to call since he might be overvaluing a 4.

So...
Losing to 22 (3 combos) This is jamming over our raise.
Chopping A4 (probably only As4s) (1 combo)
Beating 64s, 54s, maybe 43s or K4s. (4 or fewer combos) These will likely call a jam
Also beating JT (9 combos) These will start to find folds if we jam
Maybe also beating 54o, if he'll call with that pre.

Overall, I think he has enough 4s that jamming is slightly better than raising 200. I think we'll lose some JT hands that would crying call a smaller raise, but we ensure we capture as much from his 4's as we lose to his boats and as long as we get called at least half as often, the jam is better than the raise to 330.

"It is said, go not to the elves for counsel, for they will say both no and yes."