2 people all in, I have suited connectors.
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1-2 NL Holdem at my least favorite poker place, charges 10% rake up to $10.
Villain 1, mid position, middle aged heavy man, has about $50 in chips.
Villain 2, young kid, Hijack, just sat down. No info on him. $200 in chips
Villain 3, younger kid, just took an absolutely horrendous bad beat. Had pocket aces, goes all in and gets beat by a set on the river. Now totally on tilt. He has already swore at me once. he's totally red and on the verge of tears. Re-bought for $150 he's UTG
Villain 3 raises to $12.
Hero, sitting to his left, calls with 6c 7c
Table is fairly tight, (the guy with pocket 7's left and he was the only loose player) I expect I am heads up against him.
Villain 1 goes all in.
Villain 2 thinks for 2 minutes and then calls.
Villain 3 then goes all in
Would it be crazy here to call?
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Yes, it would be terrible
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my god, fold the first time around and, of course, the second time around.
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Just what hands do you think you have enough equity against?
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Villain 1 had A-Qo
Villain 2 had K-J suited (d)
Villain 3 had A-Qo
If I called I would have won. Flop came out 5-8-9 but that's poker.
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You only have any kind of decent equity in this hand because Vs 1 and 3 block each other's outs. The chances of that are slim.
Even being extremely results oriented, you would have 32.874% equity in the main pot, 32.545% in the first side, and 41.174% in the second side. You'd be paying 19% of the main (because you already paid $12), 33.33% of the 1st side, and 50% of the second.
So even against these exact hands you're only getting the right price in the main. Your EV would be +27.75 in the main, -2.37 in side #1, and -8.83 in side #2. Even in this perfect storm your EV is only $16.55.
Now let's figure it with ranges. You're paying the same amounts, and we assume that these hands are near the center of their ranges. You now have 21.81% equity in the main, 25.316% in side #1, and 34.94% in side #2. Your EV is +5.62 in the main, -24.05 in side #1, and -15.06 in side #2, for an overall EV of -$33.49.
So even with a hand that is very unlikely to be dominated by their ranges, this is a clear and obvious fold. Frankly, it does far worse the wider their ranges are here.
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More rake is better. Find a different game
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Oh, yeah. I forgot to figure in the silly rake. With $10 coming out of the main, your EV there goes down by about $3 in each of my EV calcs above, all out of the main.