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06-03-2014 , 02:32 AM
Two interesting hands from the evening.

Same Villain both hands. Older gentleman, very loose, switches quickly between lag and lp. He switches to lag when ever he loses a hand, and generally plays passive when he is winning. Have seen him 3 bet low pocket pairs 3 times in the last 2 sessions (two of which in the last hour).

Hero, Lag, 28 dashingly handsome. I switch gears frequently throughout sessions but probably is mostly viewed as loose and aggressive. I also tend to play sheriff, looking up these fools light.

First hand
hero in cutoff. 88 off.($700)
Villain in sb ($200)Villain in his laggy mode.

utg makes 15, 2 players flat. I flat in the cutoff. Villian makes it 60, fold fold. Hero Jams.

Thoughts?

Second hand

Hero AdKd (700ish)
Villain (275ish) villain in his more passive mode.

EP raises 16 i flat the button (def mix it up here, but wanted laggy villain to come along). Villain in bb makes it 50. EP folds. I call.

Flop comes K93 one diamond.

Villain leads for 70, Hero ships.

Pretty standard right?
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06-03-2014 , 02:39 AM
1st hand fine

2nd hand, I fold. He's in passive mode but raises PF and bets 70 into approx 110? I don't think your K is good here, sir.
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06-03-2014 , 02:48 AM
Pretty tough to assign him much of a range that beats me on hand 2. AA is only obvious answer. Any thoughts on a villains range in this spot? I have TT-AA. Pretty much throwing out AK and AQ.
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06-03-2014 , 02:54 AM
Well, only you know what passive mode means to this guy. After his preflop raise and bet on this board, guys I think of as passive are playing KK+ and AK only. The passive guys I know are just not betting Qs-Ts here. Calling? Sure, but not betting.
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06-03-2014 , 03:02 AM
Valid point, My thoughts are im not sure if this guy has that polarized of a 3bet range ever.
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06-03-2014 , 03:04 AM
Lol this is standard? Both hands misplayed I doubt or even a winning player I expect you to lose that big stack in that session

Only positives good reads but bad ways to take advantage

Aggro villain trap him

Passive villain value bet him

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06-03-2014 , 03:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by vjniel
Lol this is standard? Both hands misplayed I doubt or even a winning player I expect you to lose that big stack in that session

Only positives good reads but bad ways to take advantage

Aggro villain trap him

Passive villain value bet him

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Would love for you to elaborate, I think villain is pretty aggressive preflop, regardless of if hes playing more passive at the time. Maybe that was unclear.

Dont appreciate the assumptions of future losses.

FWIW If I knew i had played these hands perfect i would not have posted them.

Last edited by jackkpot; 06-03-2014 at 03:28 AM.
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06-03-2014 , 03:22 AM
hand 2 fold is a snap fold
Hand 1 snap call call no need to raise brah
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06-03-2014 , 03:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by vjniel
Lol this is standard? Both hands misplayed I doubt or even a winning player I expect you to lose that big stack in that session

Only positives good reads but bad ways to take advantage

Aggro villain trap him

Passive villain value bet him

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This:

You allowed Villain to play perfectly against you in both hands.

Hand 1 fold pre.


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06-03-2014 , 03:42 AM
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Originally Posted by blueshoes
hand 2 fold is a snap fold
Hand 1 snap call call no need to raise brah
Why is hand 2 a snap fold?
We are beaten only by AA and an unlikely set.

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06-03-2014 , 10:04 AM
Hand 2 is a flop call, shoving folds out everything we beat. Hand 1 seems spewy I'd just fold
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06-03-2014 , 08:54 PM
Hand 1 is played good

Hand 2 could go either way, dont think folding is a real option right away. But I'm not sure what's 3 bet raise, c bet range is because u only stated he 3 bets with small pairs pf.
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06-13-2014 , 03:44 AM
:grunch:

First hand: OK when V is spewy and likely to raise with smaller hands. This is going to get us into a lot of marginal spots when he can find a call with Ax or broadways. But the dead $15's and the FE make up for it.

Second hand: I think a raise pre is probably a better play, unless you see V pre-loadingsome raising chips.

Do you think he's loose enough to call the ship with something you beat? Or is it more likely that he'll fire again with a weaker hand on the turn if you flat him? I kind of think we're in trouble.

I debate I flatting him here and getting myself into an awkward spot on the turn. We're a little deeper than I like to stack off with TPTK to a LP that decides to bet.

The biggest problem is the switching between LP and LAG in the description. He might just be betting completely at random on a whim. Which makes it hard to just fold TPTK if he's in aggro mode this hand.

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06-13-2014 , 05:27 AM
snap fold AK on K93 .. seriously what ???

88 hand is pretty marginal. I think we are flipping here a lot of the time. Even lagtards can get hands sometimes, i probably just fold pre.

AK hand is ok pre , with position i think we can just flat when he donks out like this. He'll likely keep up his aggression through the turn, shoving may allow him to fold worse hands. If he bets the turn again it is an easy shove. If he checks we vbet .
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