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01-20-2019 , 03:51 PM

maplestar

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hand 1:
Villain was an old white guy and just sat down at this 10-handed table. Hero($1200) raises $25 with QQ from UTG, A bad Lag($300) in UTG1 calls,villain($325) 3 bet to $100 in MP,hero? Effect stack is $325.

Hand 2:
10-handed table. Button straddle on.Hero($1000) raises to $50 with AKo from UTG, UTG1($750) calls,MP(villain) 3bet shoves $400.Villian is a mid-age white guy.No reads.Effect stack is $400.

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01-20-2019 , 03:59 PM

DooDooPoker

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Hand 1: 4bet to $325 and get it in for 65 Effective BBs.
Hand 2: now it’s a 2/5/10 game and you have 100BBs Effective, you should 4bet shove AI. Especially OOP.

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01-20-2019 , 04:28 PM

maplestar

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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker

Hand 1: 4bet to $325 and get it in for 65 Effective BBs.
Hand 2: now it’s a 2/5/10 game and you have 100BBs Effective, you should 4bet shove AI. Especially OOP.

So we stack off for 65BB or below regardless of villains range?Ranges are very strong in these two hands though.

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01-20-2019 , 04:37 PM

CRAIerrday

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All in both hands

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01-20-2019 , 04:37 PM

DooDooPoker

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Originally Posted by maplestar

So we stack off for 65BB or below regardless of villains range?Ranges are very strong in these two hands though.

You got squeezed in both spots. You have the 3rd nuts against a short stack in the 1st hand. We are ahead of Villains squeezing range in both hands.

Or you could just fold and get run over while waiting for AA.

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01-20-2019 , 04:57 PM

browni3141

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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker

We are not likely ahead of villain's ranges in either case after we open UTG 10-handed with short effective stacks and get this action, although it might be a GII due to pot odds.

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01-20-2019 , 05:04 PM

DooDooPoker

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Originally Posted by browni3141

We are not likely ahead of villain's ranges in either case after we open UTG 10-handed with short effective stacks and get this action, although it might be a GII due to pot odds.

If his range is JJ-AA/AK and sometimes TT/AQs, we are ahead of his range. I’ll equilab it later but this is a trivially easy shove in both hands.

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01-20-2019 , 05:08 PM

maplestar

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Originally Posted by DooDooPoker

Hand 1:You think an old guy would 3bet squeeze in MP without AK,QQ+ against UTG open in live games?We are only 40% vs this range without much dead money.You are too optismic that villain 3bet JJ in this position.I just rarely see it happen in live games.

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01-20-2019 , 05:22 PM

MarshMan114

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Originally Posted by maplestar

I understand your worry here, but I think this is about as cheap a spot as you can get to find out for sure what players do in your particular casino in this game. I'd vote to ship it.

I was in a similar situation and committed/shipped it preflop with AK. Once people saw I was capable of doing that it helped me get paid off with AA later in the session. Had a guy tank 4bet shove on me preflop and they held up.

Marsh

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01-20-2019 , 09:43 PM

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Homey D. Clown

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Shove both hands, not close at all imo mainly due to stacksizes. I Just ride the variance train in these kinds of situations. Furthermore, in hand 2 that 50 raise seems unnecessarily huge. I'd open hand 1 to 20 and hand 2 to 30/35.

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