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Originally Posted by Petrucci
Youre playing around $300 so pretty shortstacked? If so, the JJ hand is a pretty clear 4 bet jam at an active aggro 2/5 table. Youre way too short to flat the 55 3 bet OOP.
Damn, really? That feels super gamble-y to me even though I admit his range is wider than usual given his position, my short stack, and some probably obvious cues that I was playing higher than usual. We think that JJ is ahead of his range often enough to ship 300 pre? Bellagio 2/5 max buy-in is $500.
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Originally Posted by johnnyBuz
Your JJ hand is a perfect example why people 3! light. In a single raised pot, you would be x/f the best hand for a smaller amount of money, and now you are x/f the best hand for a larger amount of money.
Thanks, I hadn't thought about it in quite those terms before and it makes a lot of sense.
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Originally Posted by venice10
Why wouldn't it be value?
For sure, I'm sure some of it was, I guess I just meant in the traditional 1/2 value sense - like you say, I guess it's more of a thin value thing. But to illustrate my point, these guys got in a 5-bet war preflop and ended up shipping ~$800 stacks into each other pre with TT vs. KJo.
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Originally Posted by Avaritia
To answer your very broad question of why people 3 bet, I'm going to give a very broad answer. It is because having initiative over-realizes equity and not having initiative under realizes equity. In your JJ example, you aren't fully realizing your equity (seeing turn/river and showing down) and villain is over realizing his (when he has AKo for example)
Definitely helpful, thanks.
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Originally Posted by snowman
if you and others are raising to $15 with limpers already in you are inviting 3-bets with light holdings, your raise reeks of fear and the sharks are circling.
Yeah my sizing was too small, I realize that now for sure. Thanks.