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2/5NL - is hero playing too passive? Or are the folds correct? 2/5NL - is hero playing too passive? Or are the folds correct?

05-21-2021 , 03:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by KHP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fEqykHJ-Pz4

I want to know everyone’s thoughts on this vlogger’s play, particularly in the first half of the video and the last hand. Please watch the video before you read what comes next, as I don’t want it to influence your analysis.

So for the first few hands when hero misses the flop in the first half of the video, I felt that folding ALL of them was a bit too weak. You can’t only play when you hit, otherwise you’re too easy to play against. Do you think some of the good x/r bluff spots could have been on the paired boards? Or do you think his folds are standard and correct and I’m probably a bit spewy?

For the last hand (7:58), given the pot odds, I think he had to call. However, what do you think of his line up to that point?



Let’s try it again: transcribed hands below

#1

Straddled pot. MP Limps. Hero makes it $60 in LJ with AKo. BB, UTG, and MP all cal.

Pot $242. Flop TT6r. MP bets $210. Hero folds.

#2

UTG limps. Hero in MP and raises to $30 with AdKs. HJ, SB, BB, UTG all call.

Pot $150. Flop 3Q7ss. SB bets $90, folds to me. Hero folds too.

#3

Straddled pot. UTG raises to $20. MP calls. Hero calls in CO with A5hh. SB raises to $125. Hero folds.

#4

Straddled pot. Two MP players limp. Hero raises to $60 with AJo from LJ. Button, BB, UTG, and MP all call.

Pot $312. Flop 557dd. Checked, hero bets $130. Button and MP both call.

Pot $802. Turn 10d. MP bets $350. Hero folds.

#5

UTG limps, MP raises to $40. Hero calls with KQo on the button. UTG calls.

Pot $127. Flop A76ss. MP bets $75. Hero folds.

#6

Straddled pot. MP raises to $25. LJ calls. HJ calls. Hero calls with JTo from CO. Button calls. BB calls. UTG straddled calls.

Pot $177. Flop T97r. LJ bets $75. Hero calls. Heads up now.

Pot $326. Turn Kh. LJ looks at his cards for a while and then bets $250. Hero calls.

Pot $827. River 2h. LJ bets $280 putting hero all in. Hero??
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05-21-2021 , 03:50 AM
1. Fine

2. Can raise flop occasionally

3. 3bet pre

4. I probably give up flop.

5. Fold pre

6. Fold pre
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05-21-2021 , 05:21 AM
1 wp
2 wp
3 fine, could 3b as well
4 don’t cbet
5 3b pre, as played fold flop
6 fold pre, fold river
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05-21-2021 , 09:38 AM
1. Standard. Bet may not be a TX hand but hero whiffed entirely.
2. Standard. Hero whiffed entirely again and villain bet into too many people to think about bluffing.
3. First time around fold, call and raise are all potentially OK depending on situation. When squeezed a weak AXs has to be folded.
4. Don't always c-bet this but sometimes is fine. When the c-bet doesn't take it down give up as hero has air again.
5. Preflop call is thin and fold should be the general play. On flop give up.
6. I like fold flop in this hand. Preflop call is OK as long as stacks are deep enough. On the flop hero has top pair and a gut shot draw but LJ isn't likely to be bluffing and the pot is getting bloated.
As played it's sort a meh on the river. Hero isn't likely to be winning but getting great odds at that point, against some opponents picking off a bluff is OK. Generally this is a fold.
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05-21-2021 , 12:25 PM
To throw in an answer to your more general question, not when there are multiple opponents. With a single opponent you need to c-bet air fairly often and make other bluffs occasionally. Against 2 you still want the occasional flop c-bet but less often and other bluffs with air should be rare. With 3 or more you want to just give up the majority of the time.

In hand 4 the hero did c-bet air. Hero got two calls and the flush came in on the turn, making a move in this situation without a very good read that villain will habitually bluff in this situation is bad.

Hand 5 is the only one where a bluff raise on the flop makes sense but that depends on having a good read on the situation. Hero has to have a read that MP can be c-betting air too often or will give up a bunch of his AX to raises. Even then it shouldn't be done very often because UTG could have checked a good hand to let MP go first and hero easily could be drawing nearly dead.

The situation changes if you have enough equity to matter. In those cases you can bet your good draws and stick around with more hands.
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05-21-2021 , 12:34 PM
I do notice that there’s quite a few medium strength hands where he’s electing the passive option each time. I harp on this a lot but that always screams indecision for me


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05-21-2021 , 06:30 PM
1. Standard
2. Standard
3. 3bet>fold>>>>>call cc'ing with A5s in almost any circumstance is just torching money (in bb its fine vs most open sizes)
4. Cbetting is awful here. Standard c/f
5. Pre is fine. Can 3bet some too. Standard flop fold
6. Fold>>>>>>>>>>>3bet>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>call.

Not sure this is someone you want to be trying to learn from. Hands 3, 4 and 6 are massively losing plays
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