Thought this one was pretty interesting and got mixed opinions from my group of friends.

H ($1700): Mid-30's probably seen as fairly aggro, definitely highest PFR % at table

V1 ($1250): 50's or 60's Asian guy, no history, playing a lot of hands mostly limping. Saw him raise ATdd from MP once, checked back a KJ5dxx flop, then bet pot on the 5d turn. I called with QJ and he gave up on a brick river. I haven't been at the table long so no other hands shown down from him.

V2 ($325): Fishy tourist type. Won $500 off him earlier when I 3b KK and he donked into me 3x on TT973ddhh with QJo and I just called him down.

V1 is UTG, V2 is UTG+2, H is in HJ. H dealt A7

V1 limps, V2 limps, H $25, both call.

Flop ($82): A72

V1 checks, V2 donks $20, I raise to $75, V1 cold calls, V2 calls.

Turn ($307): J

V1 checks, V2 checks, H bets $225. V1 doesn't take long and raises to $500, V2 quickly folds.

Call? Shove? Fold?

Based on the previous hand, he's at least thinking about the game. So there's some logic to his play. So what hands can he have?

Ax? I don't think he'd l/c AK or AQ. He's raised ATs. Anything worse than AJ has to worry that you have a bigger kicker since you've been betting this hard. You haven't shown a sign that you'd fold a TP hand.

A7, A2? You block the 7. But I can see him deciding to push this.

Flush Draw? Possible since he's bet it before.

Set? Possible.

AJ? Would definitely fit the betting pattern.

Since he's given up before if he misses and you're getting nearly 5:1, I'd have to call and see the river. There's just enough hands you still beat. If he bets the river and you're unimproved, I'd fold.

As Venice said, a better ace is raising pre, and I think 22 more times than not 3B once V1 cold calls at 65 bbs eff. Same if he has A2s.

1 combo of 77, and maybe the 4 AJo combos are ahead. If we can reasonably include hands like T9ss/98ss/JsXs I’d call ip and evaluate the river.

I think given the price you have to call the turn.

I probably assume he checks with KQs KJs A2 unimproved, so I lean towards a fold if he shoves the river.

Seems likely that he's got some pair+nfd/combo draw with something like 25-30% equity here. At least, that is our value range.

If we call, V will have ~650 behind in a ~1300 pot.

I think if we proceed with the hand, we should just stuff the turn. Especially since V hasn't shown willingness to make big bluffs with missed draws.

What makes you think it’s likely that instead of like 22 or AJ?

I'm reducing 22 combos after flop action. Like samo points out, unlikely 22 doesn't 3b flop given the action.

Obv, we can be beat here. But if we are continuing, it seems bad to just let V realize his equity

Iso is way too small. I like going $35-$40 here.

This is such a gross spot. I really don't think I can fold to a minraise, but I'm folding every non 7 or A river that he bets (as long as it's not a microbet.)

We've seen V bomb turns that looked sort of scary (paired up), but also gave him additional equity. And he gave up when called, and when his draw bricked. So we don't have to worry as much about getting bluffed off the river.

Here, I don't see how the J makes it any scarier, or gives him realistic added equity, unless he has AJ. Maybe some sort of KQss/, but does that cold call the flop raise? I don't think JJ is in his UTG l/c range.

We have 2P; I'm not crazy about turning them into a bluff by jamming here. Is it a big leak to just call this, and check river?

Agree with the call and check river advice. Seems as if he's giving up unless he has you beat.

Grunch: pre, I'm overlimping a decent % of the time, gotta give respect to an UTG limp and I don't think we fold out any better aces, plus we get more people to come along with weaker and have a hand that plays well multiway.

AP OTF, V2 doesn't get to have a donking range on this board so I like the raise, and I'd be raising a lot of hands here, I'd probably go more like $100, but $75 is ok.

On the turn, you're ahead of A2s (1 combo), lose to 22, 77 (4 combos). If he's raising ATdd in MP, I doubt he's overlimping many AJ hands so I'm not as worried about that. He could also have a hand like BB though it's a very ambitious raise if he does. Given how small the sizing is, and that he gave up on a previous hand, and that we look super strong, I'm ok to call this and usually fold the river to a jam - most people don't have a balanced raising range here, so if a hits and he jams, folding is easy, and if it misses and he jams, well most people aren't jamming into strength when the flush draw misses, so I'm also ok folding this, though it is pretty close and it might be a call.

We lose to 5 combos and most of the time he’d 3b flop with them. He could have a myriad of combo draws / pair +fd. I’m ripping it in and charging those draws.

If we call, the river jam will be under half pot

The one hand that hasn't been mentioned (to any significant extent) is KJ, which got some more equity on the turn. I think three types of hands could play it this way: 22, KJ, and A2. Without looking at all the combos, H should have the direct odds to call. What is practically a min raise on the turn scares the crap out of me, but let's call and evaluate the river.

FWIW I think A2 (even A2o) is more likely than AJ as he would probably (maybe not?) raise AJcc UTG, might just fold AJo to the flop raise, and c/r turn small with a combo draw seems ambitious but people do weird things. It’s just so rarely a draw. But he could also have something like a badly played AKo AQo. I’ve had people do this against me before with AK but usually not when this deep.

Didn’t think I could fold turn but I think it’s close either way. Two of my friends that are solid players said they would fold turn without reads, a couple said call and a couple said shove.

As played I called.

River ($1307): J

So that sucks. Maybe?

V snap shoves. Calling or folding?

Price may be too good to fold river - you need to be good something like ~25% of the time. Per my earlier comment, a hand like KJ suited is now ahead of H obviously. And you're now chopping with A2. But the flush draw bricked (but does a flush draw min raise the turn? Flush draw should call (assuming decent I/O if flush gets there) or jam the turn, not give you a great price to call unless he thinks a ~min-raise looks stronger than a jam). Another tough spot but I think it's a crying call.

Forgot to add - while I’m thinking on river V says he will show me either way.

Villain is literally screaming that he has AJ the whole time (or 22). Tough spot, but probably fold, villain saying he'll show either way = the nuts usually.

I don't think many 2/5 players bluff the river. It's possible he missed spades, but I'd be surprised.

Pretty easy fold. Almost any time you're only playing one card in your hand and money is going in the pot on the river, you're beat. Even a lot of his bluffs beat or chop with you now.

I'd fold river.

The AxJs combos, which he may or may not L/C pre, and call closing flop action, got there. Also, the pr/draw combos.

Hero has more AK combos, yet getting resistance.

This line is so weird. FWIW I would be shocked to see AK, AQ, or A2. If he shows up with KJss, QJss, etc he also has KQss, KTss, etc in turn raising range.

Idk, its a strange line and I think we are good about 25% here. Very table/villain dependent too. Gonna take the unpopular opinion and vote call

wise words and much more often true than not

Results:

How does he not 3 bet that flop? Bleh...

I would have folded too. Getting counterfeit here means you are suddenly losing to AK/AQ, which wouldn't be that crazy. Players tend to hate getting sucked out on, and those hands might be targeting weaker aces, so when all of those aces suddenly get their by counterfeiting you on the river, it's a sigh fold.

Results wise, this river likely saved you some money. On a complete brick, do you contemplate a fold here with 2 pair and a half pot sized bet?

check/cold 3! a flop is stupid strong

Yeah, I figure I'm losing to a stupidly played AK now too and Jxss so probably just always a fold, pretty optimistic to hope he's on a draw that missed. Not sure if I call a brick river since I think he probably gives up with AK if he has that