Hero ($1900ish) is UTG: Early 30's reg probably seen as aggro, have 3b 6 or 7 times in the past hour but I just had a strong hand every time vs a player opening too many hands. Got in AK vs AQ pre vs short stack, KK vs whatever short stack had on J73, and flopped a set to win a decent pot. Up about $1000

V1 ($500) is in MP: Older reg, plays tight and straight forward, not really relevant to hand

V2 ($1000) on button: Seems like a rec player, never seen him at the casino before. Earlier he had a hand where HJ opened $20, CO called, button called, he 3b $135 in SB, original raiser 4b to $330 and he called. Flop was Kxx went check check. Turn T and he checks, original raiser bets $300, he folds QQ face up. Original raiser shows AQo. Haven't seen him show down any other hands. He's only been at the table maybe 30 minutes.

Hero dealt AA and opens $20 UTG, V1 calls, V2 calls

Flop ($67):

J43

Hero bets $30, V1 folds, V2 calls pretty quickly.

Turn ($127): 4

Hero bets $65, V again calls pretty quickly without much thought

River ($257): 6

Hero bets $110, V takes 5 seconds, verbally announces "raise, $325". A few hypotheticals:

1. Better to c/c this river or lead again since we don't have A?
2. Should we be calling this raise or folding?
3. If we have A in our hand, are we sizing turn or river differently? Either way, are we always calling if we have A in hand vs this sizing?

I would be happy with two streets of value, so c/c river would be ok, but if he bombs it, we would still be lost. Depending on the villain I would c/c turn, then if checked through bet the river.

with the 3 barrels and a flush completing otr, plus with the board being paired, I would think he got there on the back door with something like 56cc or more likely filled up ott. I fold. The QQ hand would be enough to convince me he's good.

You'd def want to be betting more with the Ac bc you block half of his value combos that beat you, leading most of his range to be Jx

I think your line is fine i was just answering your Ac question.

As played fold. If i had the Ac id REALLY want to call but i mean folks just bluffraise the river never. Its more reliable than baluga.

Sizing so terrible every street

Pretty constructive! What are you sizing on each street and why?

You can probably bet more pre bc it's live poker and you're getting called. But whatevs, 20 is ok IMO.

On the flop, you can probably bet more, but I don't actually hate your sizing because I think it will pick up lots of floats and some gutshots when you size down a little bit.

Turn I'm probably going to bet a lot more. We gave them a chance to float, now let's punish those floats, especially turned FDs.

River I'm betting more. You should usually have the best hand here, and those hands that call $110 are very likely to call $165. Players with hands like 99 may even be more inclined to call a bigger bet because it's more polarized, or just because they have a masochistic want to see that they got rivered so they can tell themselves again how unlucky they are.

So you want to get 200 bigs in the middle with 1 pair on a 3 flush paired board? Solid plan.

Fold unless you've seen this guy bluff in this spot or have some strong reason to believe it's a bluff. I doubt he's raising AJ / KJ. Looks like at least a flush. The only possible and he might play like this that we beat is J6, but I think he flat calls that.

Basically his range should be super polarized here and most players do not make a 3x river raise bluff nearly often enough to call.

Sizing is too small on each street particularly the flop and turn. You can charge the draws more. I like 3/4 PSB OTF and 2/3 PSB OTT. On blank rivers maybe 1/2 PSB. On a club I like x/c more, but still folding to an overbet.

You gotta know when to fold em and you gotta know when to fold em.

P.S. Hi!

There's nothing so "terrible" about ~hp bets with an over pair.

Sizing seems OK to me, don't have a problem with any street really.

I knew just from the post title that the answer would be "fold" and so it is.

Sizing is not terrible I just think most recs have fairly inelastic continuing ranges on this board and we can get away with larger bets.

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Call ldo.

Ac doesn't change much.

turn - bet more 95ish.

river - check call half pot bet.

as played, muck it.

size up turn/river - missing a lot of value here. do not check river.

ap yeah fold to recs raising the river

interesting talk about bet sizing here. my 2 cents:

you'll get certain players (not sure about this player) who will float w/A-high on dry flops like this. so in that sense, sizing down to get more of his range to call makes sense. since we block most of his Ax combos, we can size up because he either has a hand to continue with or not (Jx, PPs).

turn can now include Ax of clubs combos (specifically wheel combos A5cc, A3cc, A2cc). maybe give him one other Axcc combo that floated pre.

river is blecch - very rare to see rec players bluff raise/turn SDV into bluffs on the river yet he's repping so few value hands and we've shown nothing but strength. is he ever bluffing 1 out of 4.2 times here to make this a neutral EV call? my guess is no, although i'd be watching this guy closely moving forward.

the only reason I'd want to call river is because our weak sizing may have induced villain to be raising/bluffing wider than normal. however, most of the time we go b/b/b and get raised here AA is no good even though v doesn't have many value combos, it's pretty hard for him to have bluffs here as well.

I recommend sizing up mainly to make us more $ when we have the best hand (most of the time) - but it also lets you b/f more comfortably which is a nice added benefit

1. C/C river
2. Fold as played given V history.
3. I might go higher OTT with Ac, however the only logical FD combos calling flop would be 65s/AQs/KQs. The latter might fold flop.

If holding Ac I’d C/C river. Given opponent has a fold button, maybe C/R with the nut blocker?

checking river is really bad guys

agreed

Check the turn, overbet the river

More on the turn(90ish), more on river(180-190)

As played, fold now.

If we had the Ac it would be tempting to rip and turn our hand into a bluff tbh to fold out small flushes and any weird trips he might try to get thin value with.

why? you get the majority of his value range that we beat to fold while only getting called by everything that beats us.

I'm very curious as to your rationale.

Flop sizing is fine
as the rest of the thread has said, turn size up, river size up
Also probably folding river seeing as this line is basically never a bluff, would expect to get shown jj/33//44 here very often

You actually think this is true?