2/5nl

$2,000 effective

Villain- big fish, aggressive to a fault, over values hands, raises in spots where if he is called he is never good. can be a total station as well. His wife is a major spot in the 5/10nl game and i know she is his mentor.

History- Villain over limps several limpers in HJ. button raises and gets called by BB and villain. flop is 962 BB leads pot, villain raises 3x, button shoves, bb folds and villain calls off with QQ and gets stacked by top set.

UTG limps
Hero limps 33 in MP1
Villain limps in HJ
SB folds
BB checks

($20) 3TT

UTG checks
Hero bets $15
Villain calls
Everyone folds

($50) J

Hero bets $50
Villain calls

($150) 9

Hero bets $150
Villain tanks for a bit and raises to $350
Hero?

Who folds? Who calls? Who Raises? Why?

Call

This board is somewhat scary so I don't think villain is raising too light. He can have trips and straights here. If you raise, and he ships you're in a pretty gross spot because his range includes hands that beat you and are behind you, and its pretty impossible to tell which he has.

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I have seen this hand twice in the last week. I dont think I am ever raising in this spot with bottom FH. I may be skewed that I saw bottom FH shove and get felted in both cases but who is going to call a raise? And what do you do if you get 4-bet?

1) 10X 'shouldnt' call your 3-bet, but he over-values, eh.
2) no straight, other than maybe nut straight (KQh?) 'should' call a re-raise unless they read you for 'just' an overpair.
3) Most all FH will call/4-bet your 3-bet and you have the lowest FH possible.
4) Can he EVER 4-bet with worse? Probably not ..

So I dont like the raise here since you rarely get called by worse and really dont fold out any better hands .. can 99/9T really fold here, not likely. Is he really going to overvalue 10x?

I dont think I fold here too much getting 3.25 to 1 as I think 10x and straights make up enough of his range here to justify calling it down almost always. I think your bets, being basically PSB on all streets, actually look weak to this kind of a player and he may also be trying to bluff you off an overpair.

Do you think V would raise Flop or Turn with 10x/JJ/10J in most cases or can he slow play ... ever? This is where your PSBs hurt you here as he thinks you are bettin for him. I still think the bet sizing is correct for this type of player. If he got lucky with 109 then so be it ... call and rake it in 80% of the time!! GL

The board "sucks" for our hand but i am not good enough to fold here. I dont raise as dont want to get re-raised and have to fold. Showdown for me please.

Call here that board offers good opportunities for you to have the worst hand against connected Tx.

Given your read here you can't fold but I think 3bet river is spew.

call if you think V is dumb enough to raise less than a FH over 3 pot sized bets in a limped pot.

From your description that may be true. Call given pot odds and V description. Expect to lose a fair amount of the time.

Raising is a little optimistic.

Folding is 100% out of the question here.

Based on the way he played the first hand is hard to put him on a 10 here as I feel like he would played it stronger (with the rare exception of flopped quads which is unlikely but something that would make sense).

He plays his QQ and I've no reason to think he wouldn't raise TX type hands here on the flop. I think you're more likely to see JJ/99 here than JT/T9. Having said that I think this is still just a call (as opposed to raising) as unless he's REALLY bad I can't see him even getting to the river with anything that's not TX or a full house.

I'm never raising here. I don't know what the overpair comments are about. it was a limped pot, I highly doubt villain is putting you in QQ+.

I think villain shows up with 10x here enough to warrant a call, but I wouldn't expect to be ahead and would definitely consider a fold with any live tells.

I think that the fold is discarded. You have FH and you must pay 200 in a 850 pot.
The villain is rare and unpredictable but him would know that ist'n dificult to have Tx in a limp pot.
So, what can have?
- Tx, JT normally him will seek action.
- GS with 78 or overpair ... ******
- GS with KQ is possible.
- JJ he don't seek accion before?
- PP such than 55-99 very possible. You bet is strong (pot, pot, pot) and is possible that you are bluffing or playing overpair very bad with limp pot multiway (such that he).

Buufff don't know, the stacks are deeps and I would call but never fold.

Should have read:

He overplays his QQ and we've no reason to think he couldn't overplay TX here on the flop, turn, or river.

First, I think this is a great spot to overbet the pot on the flop and turn against this type of villain. He (or anyone else in on the flop) is never folding Tx or an overpair and we're deep and the faster we build a pot, the better. Also, I don't think this significantly changes the elasticity for a fish to raise or slowplay vs a smaller bet.

Second, folding the river versus this villain is impossible.

Third, in game I probably click-it-back/fold (I have a boat vs a fish!)...but sitting here thinking through the situation, I'm thinking a call may well be best.

First raise pre flop and raise some size...I would say 20 pre flop is fine....You are deep against a fish...with a big pot hand...33 is a big pot hand...You should be eyeing the 2000...sure he may not call and other may....but betting 1% of your stack to increase the chance of stacking is just fine

..Hands like AK are mid size pots unless you are against the stupidest deep droolers so they can now be raised smaller ..but flopping a set after raising against a fish is going to be taste and you want it big...plan your hands...starting pre flop...

As played over bet the flop....no one is folding a T at least yet...and AT or some other good hand might just get it in now with you. Your hand is vulnerable....start getting it in now bet 25 maybe even 30...don't try to milk a few small bets from 99 or something...you have a big stack against a fish and a big hand...and most of the hands that call are going to be pretty inelastic...

As played to the river, its close to raise/fold your deep enough to raise fold and you almost can't put him on a hand that he comes over the top that you beat...and there is still a lot of T's that a fish might call the 3 bet...but I'm probably just calling, Ive seen deep fish find folds in spots like this...one of the problems of playing very deep with fish.

All decisions are based on the player first imo. I would go with my read on the player here. He probably has 10x. Maybe even KQ or 78. I would call his river raise and if he has a white black bird, he has a white black bird.

If this was a good player, I would probably snap/hero fold.

Assuming the other dude has a 10 in his hand. OK, so, only 6 cards from the deck beats you. The remaining 3 Jacks and the other 3 nines.

When you flop a set (in this situation you got actually a FH, but) when you flop a set you want to commit. You also got to understand that if you lose with a set you'll be losing a lot of money. If you don't, you're NOT playing your sets correctly. Don't be afraid losing when you got a flopped set. Don't try to manage risk. Commit! - The only way to make money in situations like this is if the other dude's got a TEN in his hand. So, go for it, pardner. Variance goes thru the roof here, but I always wrongly assume everybody is loaded bankroll-wise as I am. The obvious answer is a big enough bankroll. Do NOT adopt any strategies designed to reduce variance!

Big fish.. aggressive to a fault and over values hands.... it'd be hard for me not to raise here let alone call.

Snap call based on pot odds and V description. Raising is def optimistic and I just do t see how he calls with worse.

You pot the river and he still raises? You have to call but I doubt he ever calls a reraise with worse. Since the title says 400bb I'm guessing you 3b him on the river and got shoved on right?

In my experience when a fish who overplays his one pair hands suddenly starts slowplaying flop and turn, then raises river, it's because he thinks he's a lock. I can't fold because he could be overplaying Tx, but JT and T9 both beat you now. I'd call.

Folding to the villain described in the OP in this spot is just impossible.

It just sucks that the board had to run out J and 9

why couldn't it run out 6 and 4 so we could jam

so yeah, crying call.

Never folding river. No reason to raise. Easy spot....

I can't find a fold here, esp with the example hand we have on villain. For me, I'm not raising here either though. If we do raise to say 600-800 or so and villain ships we're in a pretty sick spot. T9 and TJ are both in his range here and have us crushed. And I'm not getting stacked in a limped pot. So I just call the 200 and drag the pot most of the time here.