2/5 hero $700 (TAG)

MP $500 (FISH)

CO $850 old guy 50-60 years old. Did sometimes overplay his hand, but not sure if he over play this hand..

UTG limp, hero UTG+1 KK raise to $25.

MP call, CO call, UTG call.

Flop 555

Hero? Hero bet $75

MP call, CO call.

turn 7. board 5557 POT $325.

Hero bet $225. MP fold, CO raise all in.

Hero?

No read on CO? In a vacuum I think this is a call on the theory that he can gii with all sorts of worst boats than you have.

Call.

Would be nice to have a read.

Are you readless on the CO?

Assuming you have zero read on him and he just sat at the table, I'm not sure how you can find a fold here.

CO old guy 50-60 years old. Did sometimes overplay his hand, but not sure if he over play this hand..

My friend said I should check the turn, I can't get 3 st of value of this hand.

Id call and be happy about it

I would just bet far less on the turn. Closer to 40% pot. Assuming he calls, about 1/2 pot on the river.

People hate to fold full houses. I think you can get good value from an opponent who has a hand like 1010 or JJ here.

As played, this is a trivial call on the turn. I'm guessing you lost, but no one is folding in this spot.

Even the super vague read that he sometimes overplays his hands makes this an easy call. Could have 88-QQ. Only way this could even be considered for a fold would be if we could eliminate those hands from his range due to passiveness/nitty.

I'm going to vote call because if he's got a 5 it's gg and the only other hands that beat you are AA or 77. You're 325 out of 700 in. I have to think you're ahead almost all of the time and unless he's ultra tight or you have a read, I think losing this pot is a cooler, not bad play calling here.

Interested to see other analysis here.


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my friend say I play this hand terrible:/ CO mostly going to 3bet JJ+ maybe flat 88-TT

Say your friend he a stupe..

This is a good board for KK and I'd be happy about calling here

Have your friend construct a range for the villain here. Hands like 99-QQ are far more likely than A5s or 65s for flopped quads, or 77.

Saying otherwise is being overly results oriented. This is a clear call. Poker can be infuriating when the right play results in getting felted, but that is part of the game that we all accept, this is a snap call and if we lose it is a cooler.

Folding here, in particular against this villain, would be bad and a losing play in the long run.

Sounds like your friend is a weak tight nit who misses a ton of value.

And no most randoms at the casino aren't 3betting JJ anywhere near all the time. Especially against tags.

You can absolutely get 3 streets of value from hands like 88-jj and the ocassional QQ that he slowplayed.

Id recommend going smaller on the turn & then small on the river too to keep in his weaker full houses. You don't need to worry about protecting your hand as if he's behind he's only got 2 outs.

V mostly 3bet JJ+, its possible he calling with 88 to TT tho.

My friend said he will fold 77...and may consider check fold KK on turn...
He said there r lot of 5x V can have...

Result is V has A5s, and 2 of my friend say I should fold on turn...make me feel like I am such a bad player...

I think lots of people are flatting here with JJ. Either way, even if he 3bets 75% of the time, sometimes he will flat pre and he is going to feel underrepped on the turn with that hand.

He could also have 99 or 1010, and a slowplayed QQ here.

My broader point is that villain has more full houses in his range than quads. Making this an easy call.

Villain would have to be a total nit for me to let this one go. And even then I might still have to call it off.

You did nothing wrong here, though I'd suggest you bet less on the turn.

Get new friends lol.

Fold. He has quads.

Are you trolling or what? yes, that what's my friend told me. maybe I should fold.

Your friend sucks at poker

I'm not trolling. It's kind of a hero fold and I'm only advising to fold because I made a big lay down with KK on a 222xx board in a cash game last week and I was right. I bet every street and on the river he quickly jammed for $600 more. My instincts told me he had A2 and he did. I think if he had smaller pairs than KK he would just call down and not be so eager to get all the money in. This guy was also a nit and we call him "the jew" in our home game, so its definitely a different situation as your read on the opponent is "has overplayed hands sometimes" These spots come down to live reads and instincts. In the long run I'll be calling here much more than I'll be folding though. Flame away boys.

Nope, no results oriented thinking going on here...

In a vacuum, easy call with amount in pot, etc. However, old guy probably gave off some tells when he shipped. If so, it could be a fold. Also, bet smaller IMO.