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2/5: Way too passive with AKo in MW pot? 2/5: Way too passive with AKo in MW pot?

09-21-2017 , 09:20 PM
2/5 new game

UTG ($300) raises to $15,
Hero ($550, MP) opts to just flat,
BTN ($300) calls,
SB ($200) calls

Flop ($65): Ad Jc Tc
UTG bets $20, Hero calls, BTN calls, SB calls

Turn ($145): Ts
Checks around

River ($145): Kd
SB checks, UTG bets $30, Hero ?

Preflop I want to experiment with flatting against UTG raises with no callers in between.

Flop standard call as nothing worse calls a raise often and raising might be overplaying the hand.

Turn I'm debating if I should just bet out once PFR checks but 4-way it seems a little thin as straights and Tx, and better is out there. But I should probably just bet. Mistake I think.

River I don't see UTG PFR leading out into 3 people with worse than Qx despite of the good price.

Line check please?

Last edited by momo_uk; 09-21-2017 at 09:32 PM.
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09-21-2017 , 09:40 PM
I don't like pre but whatever.
I think if we flat pre, flatting the flop is fine.

Bet the turn. If the T wasn't a club (I.e. AcJcTx) I'd be more likely to check the turn. But there isn't a whole lot of Tx that calls the flop.
River is probably a fold tbh.
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09-21-2017 , 09:41 PM
Any description of UTG?
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09-21-2017 , 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by fatmanonguitar
Any description of UTG?

MAWG, chatting with a buddy. Looks weak tight.
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09-21-2017 , 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by momo_uk
MAWG, chatting with a buddy. Looks weak tight.
Still prefer to 3b pre. Otherwise, I like what IRTM is saying.
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09-22-2017 , 05:38 AM
3! pre. I would only flat if thought that there was a strong chance that someone would squeeze.
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09-22-2017 , 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by BackDoorFlush
3! pre. I would only flat if thought that there was a strong chance that someone would squeeze.

What if he 4! shoves or we whiff flop so shallow stacked?
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09-22-2017 , 02:36 PM
Pre should probably be a 3!, but flatting is definitely not the end of the world IMO. Flatting flop seems fine. Because of the FD, I'm putting in a bet on the turn, maybe $60-70. If it were a rainbow flop, I'd check. Such a small river bet from UTG. Ugh - think you've gotta call here, but fold to any raise
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09-22-2017 , 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by momo_uk
What if he 4! shoves or we whiff flop so shallow stacked?
Snap calling a 4! if he shoves. He started the hand with 60 bbs.
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09-22-2017 , 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BackDoorFlush
Snap calling a 4! if he shoves. He started the hand with 60 bbs.
If it goes 15->50, then fold to villain who shoves - it's 250 to win 350... You need 42% equity.. If V has a range of 99+, AK... You actually *don't* have the odds to call. V would need to be showing up with weaker hands to make this call profitable, and some V's we know never have worse than AK... But if there's any doubt (like if you think V will have AQ or whatever sometimes), then definitely you'd want to call.

On the other hand, if you have AKs (not AKo), then you *can* make the call even against QQ+, AK.
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09-22-2017 , 05:50 PM
Flop is fine. Turn is fine but maybe you can get away with a bet if you think they are never bluff raising. River is probably a call but it's whatever.
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09-22-2017 , 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by pocketzeroes
If it goes 15->50, then fold to villain who shoves...
The guy opened to $15 in a 2/5 live game. How often does he have AA/KK? He never does in my games. That's why I'm snap calling a jam with AK.

Your games may be different. But I doubt it.
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09-22-2017 , 07:53 PM
Pre is fine imo, but against a "short stack" 3betting can't be that bad.

Flop seems perfectly fine as well. I would bet the turn though.

And I'd call the river with these odds.
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09-22-2017 , 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by BackDoorFlush
The guy opened to $15 in a 2/5 live game. How often does he have AA/KK? He never does in my games. That's why I'm snap calling a jam with AK.

Your games may be different. But I doubt it.
Some tricky people open small to induce 3bets... But yeah, mostly you're right, I guess we can probably discount AA or KK here. Still I'm not feeling great if it goes 15->50->shove.
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