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Originally Posted by oldsilver
Don’t give the trolls oxygen mate
Shove has some benefits but these are outweighed by the value in bringing dominated AQ-AT and some other low equity hands into the mix. It’s also for balance given that we can profitably three bet some light stuff in future. Finally, are you shoving JJ+ here or does the jam actually cap your range?
Sometimes you have to know how to out-troll the trolls.
No, I'm not shoving JJ here, but I am shoving AKs, AQs and possibley Ax suited wheels. More on why below.
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Originally Posted by shorn7
Easy 3! to $125-$140 for me.
And as to why you don't shove? Pretty simple....you fold out all worse hands and only get called by a range that destroys you. Shoving is anti-value.
First off we have an unknown drinking a beer that opens to $25 in EP. 2 loose-passives just call to us in the HJ and they have ~$350 stacks. We need to play vs. that stack amount, not Beer Man's $500 stack. So how do you feel about your hand if you raise to $125 and the Btn BB Villain and the 2 passives just call. The flop whiffs and you have ZERO fold equity with the pot at ~$625 bucks. Nice bet fold pre-flop if that is even a thing.
We block AA and KK. The 2 passives didn't raise. How are we getting called by better from them. If they had it they would have raised instead of flatting pre-flop. As to the Beer Man, if he has it he has it. What hand is he going to call a $125 raise that he won't stack off with. And even if he doesn't and the 2 passives fold, I'll gladly take a free $80 bucks with A high.
I would rather call with a pot of ~$100 and have some money that might scare someone (FE) if it checks to us in position when we whiff the flop, over making a $125 raise. Stacks just aren't deep enough for any play-ability post flop if we miss.
All-in>>>>flat>raise small