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/5 - Two pair, limped pot, monotone flop /5 - Two pair, limped pot, monotone flop

06-21-2014 , 11:00 AM
Reads: V1 is very lag. Aggressive pre flop, attacking limpers with raises w/ marginal hands, though he does limp sometimes. Aggressive post flop, but does not overdo it. A good to decent LAG.

V2 is an unknown asian guy who does not raise too much pre flop and has shown a few loose limps. Pretty standard TAG post flop. He once called my MP open on the button with 97o, then called my large flop bet with a gutshot straight draw.

V1 open limps with 6 players left to act. Another limper, V2 completes the SB and I check the BB with J6. ~$450 effective versus all players.

Flop: J106. SB checks, I bet $20 into $20, V1 and V2 call.

Turn: J1065. SB leads for $55 into $75 (after rake).

Hero? I don't think folding is an option, since he can still just have a decent J-X or A10 type hand. Is a raise too thin?
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06-21-2014 , 11:22 AM
Any other live reads? Didhecheck his hand otf? Given the action and description I think a call is fine also folding is fine not sure I like any kind of raise here. I'm really not comfortable in this spot I'm guessing I would lean more toward folding now that I think about it
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06-21-2014 , 02:25 PM
V1's presence concerns me the most, particularly on a monotone flop, I would assume his presence in a hand to be predicated by him being the aggressor. With a post-flop TAG leading into you and a passive acting LAG behind you, I would be worried in this spot.

I think there's value to be had out of worse, but I'd prefer to see the river heads up, or charge the LAG more to get there.

Raise/fold to 125 and reeval river.
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06-21-2014 , 05:26 PM
If he's calling 79os to a raise preflop, I'd assume he'll complete ATC from the sb. So on the turn, I'll put all sets, 2pairs and flopped flushes in his range, which you obviously are doing terrible against. I don't see this type of player check/calling the flop and leading 2/3 pot on the turn with a pair plus or a J, he would probably check call again. You also have a laggy player behind who could choose to bluff raise, putting pressure on your hand that it can't take. I think a raise is overplaying your hand and the worst option.

For those reasons, I think this is a fold.

Edit: Just want to add that while I think most competent players are leading with flopped flushes/2pr/sets here, I feel this type of player checks these hands "for deception" and then just calls hoping to see a safe turn before committing more money.
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