2/5 local casino

Effective stacks
Hero 350
Villan 550

Straddle is on for $10 hero limps in utg+1 with 77, mp raises to $35, 4 callers hero completes
Flop is j29 two spades, checks around turn is red 7, hero makes it 90$ folds to villan (villan is tourny reg and calls down very light and overplays small pairs) villan flats. Blinds release river is 2 spades. Hero checks and villan tanks then bets 300 putting hero all in.

Should I have put a feeler bet on river??
Should I call off last 220ish??

Villan is known to build a nice stack but by end of session spew it all off with mid pair or some other bizarre play. I know there is not a lot of info but what is my move on the river??

Yes, call. $320 in there already +$220 bet = $540 pot which you only need to call $220 to claim. So unless you are > 71% sure he has you beat, you should be calling here (540 / (540+220)). And I doubt he has you beat that much. Your hand is way under-repped and villain may even be bluffing since you seemingly gave up on the river.

Pre-flop, I prefer a raise (straddle is on button, yes?). If not, you should have squeezed preflop by limp re-raising to like $120.

Straddle is utg

Thanks. Now I am even more confident pre-flop is a raise.

Uh....?

Bet river, as played, triple fist pump call? How is there confusion on this?

What could he be flatting $90 with on the turn?

A worse hand. I would never expect V to flop a set and check it on a two-flush two-straight board.

I see tourney regs chasing draws all the time, even on the turn. Quite frankly it's an easy fold based on he had to think about flatting and he's thinking because it's real cash, not just chips and then once he hits his flush he's just thinking, "how much can I get out of him". (meaning get out of you)

As played I would have bet closer to $125.00 on the turn, he would have paid it and I think your check on the river is appropriate because unfortunately he got lucky and hit his flush.

Looks like the hand is disguised enough for V to bluff-shove the river with the 3rd spade. Can't see him checking the flop with the set. C/C seems right here.

Hero beats a flush, he has sevens full. Snap call, you lose to exactly two hands, both of which are unlikely to have checked the flop and then flatted the turn. You should shove the river yourself for value.

Also, your turn bet is too small. There's either $175 or $210 in the pot (your PF action was a little unclear), and you should be betting at least 3/4 pot on this board.

Wow...I overlooked that!! I'm wondering now why would you question calling the shove? In fact, wouldn't a value bet be appropriate in this spot as opposed to checking??

I see what Rahz is saying that only two hands beat you. I don't see that this guy has you beat now that I read your post again (thoroughly! duh!!)

We don't have any info on your V but as it is, unless he's super passive on the flop and turn, I agree with Rahz. I've seen some of these players at this level check call all the way to the river but this line??? I believe you have him beat.

Rahz is spot on after going back through it.

Yeah I'd bet more ott as well, closer to 3/4psb

Also, I'm leading the river. Not a "feeler" bet, a "value" bet. I'd hate myself if V just checked behind and turns over a 2pr hand and know I could have got an extra bet in.

As played, I can't fold a full house to this guy.

Note that in future hands like this, it's easier for folks to follow the action and analyze bet sizing if you keep a running pot count street-by-street, at least to the flop. In Op, the pot otf could vary by several bbs depending on how many callers were were in the blinds/straddle.

Uh...snap call then...

Let me stop you at hero completes.

You're 35bb deep. You can limp and be profitable. You can't call a raise though. You should have folded to the raise. You cost yourself money by calling. Lets not delude that fact in any way.

As played, you have a boat on a flushed out board. This is a trivial all in.

Not sure if maybe op is a mistake or what. The river was one of the best cards in the deck just shove or check and call without a second of thought.

Lol absolutely this.

OP, is the board pairing a typo? Or is this a bad beat thread against ****tilly played quads 22s?

Seems like such a trivial question. I'm guessing other typo or badly played 99/JJ

limping with 77 UTG+1 in a straddled pot with 350 behind is a leak. This has to be a raise or fold.

Typo guys sorry board did not pair

So your saying the board in fact did not pair, you have roughly $100 invested in the pot and villain puts you all in with his river bet for around $220 correct? This is a fold. Villain hit his flush and has you beat more often than not. Fold.

I tend to b/f this river, for value and then sigh fold if raised, as river raises are the nuts 98% of the time in 1/2 & 2/5 (exceptions to the rule of course)

This situation is weird with you stack size, I assume that's why you checked? There is no b/f'ing this river with your stack size, its bet/call it off I guess. Or donk for value as there is still worse that calls it off.

His line seems FOS to me but then again I always think that and call the mortal nuts.

You do have to consider the fact that there were like 100 people in this hand and no one was interested in the flop or turn, meaning it is somewhat likely he does in fact have the spades.

I suppose its a sigh fold, but why when you played so weak would he shove you for value? That's what doesn't make sense here.

Don't listen to any of this recent advise... it is not a fold without a nit read on villain. And for the guy that advises you weigh "how much you put in the pot" as a factor - that is horrible advice. The pot is the pot... does not matter who put it there, just how many dollars it is. The only value of knowing how it got there is for you to range opponents and how they *may* range you.

Pop quiz for these hotshots:
If you are calling $200 into an already $600 pot, how often do you need to be right to make the call profitable?



.. but yes,
Preflop = fold or raise > limp 3bet > limp call
Flop = fine
Turn = ok
River = shove > check call > check fold

⬆This is all u need to know about the hand

Lol this obv

Generally, I don't think there's much room for proper poker sub-100bbs in a cash game and advocate you reloading your stack up to at least 500.

Limping a straddle with what becomes 35bbs is really bad imo. You cannot call a preflop raise when one comes in and have bad implied odds even if you do spike a set because your stack is so short.

As played, why is the river a question? 2 of spades is a dream card, snap it off and dance around the table