OP, what were the results of this hand? Did you just fold turn?
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Originally Posted by OvertlySexual
As the PFR we have all AA through QQ that our opponents do not have. But we do not have 67, 22 and probably many if not all 87 combos. Since we raised so big preflop, their ranges should also be tighter and the proportion of their made hands should be/are very possibly bigger than ours. So even if the equities run close, they have the advantage on more nutted hands. Then, there's the problem we are out of position. Last but not least, we are against 2 opponents which makes the range we are facing that much stronger.
Well, you were talking about betting
frequency. What I remember when I was studying at training sites last year is that " range/equity advantage" is related to betting frequency, while "nut advantage" is related to bet sizing. So if we have a pair+ advantage, and opponent has a twopair+ advantage, we'd like to bet small at a high frequency. That's an oversimplification.
One other point I wanted to make: CO is supposed to be playing a 3bet/fold strat against our open. So this spot is already outside the realm of any solver strats. So we have to speculate on what a "live range" looks like here for CO (and similarly for the Straddle).
Is the game playing loose or tight? On good days, in my 1/3 and 2/5 games, I expect an MP open to be called by hands as weak as KJo/QJo by the weak rec players. If that's the case, and either CO/BB are weak recs, then any overpair is a slam dunk value bet on the flop, IMO.
On the other hand, if CO is a good reg, he'll be calling preflop tighter, like {56s-T9s, Suited Broadways, AQo, 55-TT}. Main point being: If CO is a good player, he'll be concentrated on mid-pairs and suited cards. Because he isn't playing many offsuit cards, he'll be pair-heavy on this board. Meanwhile, we'll have a lot of unpaired offsuit hands.
But we also have an overpair advantage which we can look to leverage via aggression. Point being that if equities run close, our opponents still may not be able to realize their equity on all runouts facing aggression from us. For a concrete example, consider the scenario CO where CO has 88 on this board. How will he feel he calling 3 barrels from us? Even on a clean runout (no high cards), he'll be in a tough spot on the river. Our overpair advantage is so strong, it will make him indifferent to calling down with 88. If he folds 88 on the river, we scoop up some equity with our bluff combos. The opponents loss of equity comes from when he is forced to fold, and that's where our equity overrealization comes from.
On the flop, we're scared of 9 combos of hands from CO (assuming he is a good reg), just 76s, 77, 66. Meanwhile he has all manners of flush draws, some straight draws, and 18 combos of 88-TT that we'd like to extract value from. We're shallow at around 3 SPR, so the advantage CO has at the very top of the range is neutralized. We make most of our money on this board from the times when we have AA-TT and CO has TT/99 and gets committed to the pot. If we get coolered by 76s/77/66, such is life, but we aren't deep enough for this to be much of a concern (IMO).
I would think that we can range bet this flop for a 1/3 sizing, even if one of the players is quite a strong player. I may well be wrong, but that was my gut reaction on looking at this hand.
