V sat down about twenty minutes ago. Is a middle aged East Indian wearing a track suit. Bought in for $1000 which is unusually large for the game. Handles his chips well. For sure he has played a lot of live poker. Playing most of his cards, mostly limping. Saw him raise a few times in LP, and c bet a T high flop 3way with AJo. Doesn´t make thin value bets. Seems stabby when checked to and when previous street is checked around.

Hero is 30´s white guy. Playing a TAG game. $1400

OTTH

8 handed

V open limps in HJ, hero raises J9 to $25 on button, folded back to V who calls.

***Maybe this is not the best V to be isolating with J high?

(49.50) flop: 743

V checks, hero bets $35, V calls

***Not a good board for c betting but at least I have two overs and some backdoor draws. If I check, and my read is correct, V will certainly go after the pot on the turn barring scare cards.

(116) turn: T

V checks, hero bets $75, V calls

***kind of a scare card for V, plus it gives me equity. I think V can have a lot of weak draws on the flop that he folds here. Planning to value bet an 8 or J on river, not sure about a 9. Bluffing an ace, king or queen on river?

(266) river: K

V checks, hero bets $150

I think it's decent. Not sure why you don't think it was a good board to cbet, seems nearly ideal to me, and you cbet despite thinking it was bad so... Okay...

As far as barreling, probably the biggest mistake is the turn and I actually think your story would have been far more credible by checking the turn, then you could raise him when he stabs at this river. However, it's hard to know if this is the kind of V that thinks you can never have anything if you check a street. In any case the turn is not a scare card and I find it doubtful any hand that called the flop would fold the turn.

On the river, it's tough and here is why I lean towards not taking a 3 street bluffing line. If he's just a callin station who doesn't care what you have he's calling no matter what. If he can hand read, he knows that you have to basically be value betting AA-99 like this in order for him to fold, because if you have AK,KQ, etc in this spot, you also have a ton of air balls like your exact hand and he will call. Not only is it difficult for you to get AA-99 pre, it's unlikely most live players would bet hands like QQ,JJ,99 on the K river. So all in all I think you're getting called pretty often but it was an okay try.

I think its good given Villain's line. What hand could he have here that is strong enough to call the river? If he had 2pair+ you would have heard from him by now. Any mid size pocket pair is raising pre-flop. His line looks like A5 or a pair+gutshot. He should fold these most of the time on the river.

With that said, tons of Indians I've played with are massive stations, so its something to keep in mind before you decide to iso the guy or decide to c-bet on a board you miss. I wouldn't be surprised if the guy called you down with a low pair.

what hand are you repping by triple barreling here? it polarizes your range and is rather suspect especially when you opened the button. i think its fine to check the turn because you picked up equity and we bet the river more credibly on A, K ,Q and we're assuming that 9, j, 8 are all value bets possible a smaller sizing.

Seems an OK line in general. Your not likely to run into two pair+ those raise flop or turn. Unless villain hit two pair on river you shouldn't run into KX. You can represent AK barreling and getting there on river, some TX, JJ+.

The real question is do you have enough information on villain yet? With only 20 minutes of history how much have you seen him fold? In particular, how much have you seen him fold turn and river? If villain is going to station you off with 66 on this run out this is bad, if he will fold 99 when you bet river it's good.

looks good

Generally speaking, should I be checking these kind of turns?

I feel strongly that these kind of V´s call the flop with any pair, any 6,5. They need a pair+gutshot, or TP to call the turn.

I actually prefer checking these kinds of flops most of the time against the typical bad regs in my $1/2 game. They will tell us on the turn if they have a pair or not and if they bet it will be small and still allow us to continue with our draws. Plus we can bluff so many rivers against them.

I agree completely that our river bet is repping a thin range of sets and aces, KT. Given board texture it seems unlikely we would double barrel AK,KQ,KJ,etc. But honestly, these kind of V´s are not going to be thinking that deeply. Doubtful they even understand board texture.

How about 65s for the nuts? He would have no reason to raise since Hero is taking the betting lead and it's likely that Hero has air (in V's mind) which means he won't call any raise.

I see people play nutted hands very passively all of the time. It's incredibly annoying, but on this run out there is no need for V to raise until the river if he decides to check/raise.

we have a ton of value hands here. 88+

Ask yourself this, OP: If you held JJ on this board, against this V, with the exact same action leading up to the river, would you value bet for $150 (expecting a call)?

Generally, this is a great flop to cbet with intentions to barrel. the T on the turn isn't gin for your range, but it is, at least, an overcard. The K is great, but I think everything that gets to the river for V is calling another bet unless it was second best the whole way. The only better hands that fold are like A5, A6 type hands that whiffed a gutterball.

Looks like a better value spot than bluff spot to me.

Pretty much perfect spot to triple barrel imo. Also, the flop is a perfect board to cbet, planning to double barrel a lot of turn cards.

Concerns over what we are repping are misplaced imo. Only 5ish% of 2/5 players are able to hand read well enough for us to be concerned about what we are repping.

I agree that he likely can't hand read very well, but I think our thinking on this needs to be consistent. If he holds 88 and he can't hand read, what is going to incentivize him to fold, him thinking, "He could have a T or a K?"? If that's the case, could he not just as easily think, "He might not have a T or a K"? And given the tendency of live players to call too much, and the fact he has already called 2 streets, is the latter not more likely?

That isn't what he's thinking with 88. He's thinking "****, now I only have third pair." How many times have you seen a 2/5 player call a triple barrel with third pair on the river?

Def a barreling board IMO. Lots of pair + gssd hands. It's a dynamic board that favors position and will be difficult for v to c/c down on. Given read I'd expect a sizeable enough portion of his range to c/c c/c fold rive to make a river barrel profitable. 2 more overcards have fallen on turn and river it's going to be tough for v to hold on even with a hand like 88.

Like the line, not in love with sizing, have to pass threshold, I like $200+ OTR