2/5 mid afternoon.

Hero young male loose image because table is 6 handed, stack of 560.

V middle aged male only been at table for 5 hands so probably doesn't know Hero has been playing loose. V played one significant hand where he raised pre with J9o and got 3 streets of value on a JT562 board. Stack of 850.

Folded to CO who limps, V limps otb, SB completes and Hero raises to 35 with AQo

Flop (85ish) Q52r. Hero checks (honestly no real reason why I checked but looking back at hand it was probably really bad). V bets 70 and Hero calls.

Turn (225ish) Q52T with two clubs. Hero checks and V insta-shoves for my effective stack of 400ish...

???

Call. Hand under repped and he thinks qx is the nuts once you checked the flop. Yeah he can have sets but so what.

Ez fold

This hand is only difficult because you butchered it so badly. You should bet the flop. People will call with anything because they put you on AK. The shove on the turn looks weak. He thinks TPWK is a good hand. You've wildly underrepped your hand. I'd call.

Yeah, I mean, you just had absolutely no plan or purpose in the hand.

Posting a thread like this in this context - it just doesn't matter. It's a nonsense situation.

That said, accepting that you had no rhyme or reason - and here you are facing the turn ship - I'd fold pretty quickly.

I guess I checked the flop because the only previous hand I had seen V play was the J high hand described in the OP. I figured my pre flop raise could look like a squeeze and since V is otb he can be limp calling probably his entire range. When I check the flop I am hoping to get V to bet some of his air hands and semi bluffs. When V bets the flop I don't think he has to have a pair so when the turn hit I wanted to let V bluff again. If V checks the turn I was planning on comfortably value betting river.

When V snap shoved I didn't really know how to interpret it because if he did have Qx, a 2 times pot shove makes no sense. If he somehow puts me on a strong hand (AQ KK AA) he can be shoving weird 2 pair combos or sets hoping I can't fold and overpair to top pair. I only thought he could be shoving combo draws that he picked up on the turn. I think most combos draws that were air on the flop he would try to take down with a bet on the flop when checked to.

I guess the main reason for not betting flop was because this wasn't a hand I was going for 3 streets of value with. So I think checking flop and betting turn and river is fine. Checking flop is fine (I think) because there arent really any terrible cards that can fall on the turn that would make me not want to bet.

Why?

In spots like these I think you'll lose a lot of money against random players making assumptions that because you showed weakness that they will be overplaying a hand or bluffing you. The hand you posted isn't enough info for me to want to call, as getting three streets w/ top pair no kicker is different from potting flop and shoving turn. So without evidence villian is a total dolt or some crazy maniac, I would have no problem letting this go.

You maneuvered yourself into a very marginal situation here. With no read on villain, I would fold to the over bet but I can't really object to calling either because your hand is under repped. The thing is though, your under repped but the board is very dry, what does villain think your check/calling flop with? With a better read on villain this could be an easy fold or easy call, here it's getting some read on the situation and going with it. The over bet shove makes me lean fold absent any other information.

You should have bet the flop. After checking the flop you should have raised his bet and shoved turn. Now call.

Yeah more info on V would've helped me too. Like a said V only had been at the table for 30 minutes or so, but from an unknown I just don't think the overbet is a bluff too often.

Was it heads up to the flop?

I'm always leading here, but whatever.

As played your villain description makes this a call. He's obviously capable of thin value base on the J9 hand so I think he's very likely to shove a weak Q as your hand looks a lot like 99-JJ. This would be an incredibly weird way to play 2pair + as he's losing a ton of value when you fold and it's not inconceivable to think you checked QQ twice. His shove looks really weak.

Combined with that fact that I imagine he can definitely have a hand like KJ of clubs or some other had that turned a ton of equity I'm never folding here.

yeah, heads up to the flop.

You're repping complete weakness and because of that you can't range him - he can have anything from a Qrag to a crushing Q10. Extracting information with a bet or a raise is important. And for Pete's sake don't slow play a pair.

flop check is getting too much hate. hes only been there for 5 hands and youve already seen him raise and go for 3 streets with J9o, so hes valuebetting thinly to the point of button clicking pretty much (and readless). this is a pretty valuable piece of info to get over the first 5 hands, and its not unreasonable to check AQ here because many hands that you would be getting value from by betting will actually bet themselves, plus you get value from his bluffs/spew which we should believe he is capable of. i wouldnt check with the intention of folding really at any point. not too many people even use this sizing with 2p+ anyways, so his value range that beats you is very thin; he is much more likely to take this line with anything he bet the flop with that turned a flush draw, especially if it is a combo or pair+draw.

so call

Pfd. Call

Yeah going off the only info I had I ended up tanking for a bit and calling. V showed Q2s and I bricked the river.

Looking back on it I think I could have waited for a better spot vs this V but with limited information I think calling was ok.

Given villain has already shown some significant aggression, and a willingness to value bet without the nuts in the J9 hand, I don't hate the passive line here. The downside is that I don't think you can ever fold once you've checked the flop and turn.

I think the hand is far easier to play if you bet the flop and turn, but in my opinion your line isn't as bad as some are making it out to be.