Fold pre. A9 off is not a hand you should play in a raised pot out of position. Everything that happens postflop is follow up mistakes compounding on your bad preflop decision.
Fold preflop obviously....but theres 0% chance anyone can answer whether you should call or not without being at the table.
Its all about having a read. How often does he 3 bet? If not very often he can easily have AK/AQ here. How often in general has he been shoving? Does he call raises with lots of rag aces? Would he do this with a flush draw?
If you cant answer these questions, you have no chance.
sharkem you seem to be a calling station from this post and your last. get out of that.
start thinking the thought of if i cant be raising here why am i in the pot.
Without wanting to jump on the band wagon.... But calling pre-flop here, then flopping about as good as we can hope, and then not knowing what to do vs the short stack.... Feel like you might want to have a read of some strategy books...
As played this is a pretty clear call...
why is it a call on the end. you are also facing 2 players behind you that could have checked a playing hand.
not many players will bet a queen here for all their money so its a bluff or a better ace.
OP suggests utg+1 is folding here, and you can usually tell if someone is ready to dump, so only really 1 further player to act...
This board is far to wet to be folding to a short stack shove Imo..... Shorties can, and should be jamming flush draws, and any weak aces they have...
If you look at the aces alone....
Ak,aq surely 3! Gii pre? Maybe they flat these but even if we include in the flat range... Ak-at we lose and a4... We beat everything else....we are ahead of any bare draws, potentially kq, qj, qt, q9 spades....
We are only really losing to a big ace here, and 444! We have 2pair vs a lot of his bigger aces and vs a4....
I am generally assuming that the shortie is not a great player.... Hence playing so short, and tbh a good short stacker is probably not playing much this way that a9 isn't beating anyway.....
On a side note,I think op really needs to start playing hands with a plan in mind, if your playing a hand with a shortstack you should know what you are going to do if they jam pretty much always....in this case if your in the pot with a9 and a shortie and you flop and ace, you should now weather you are calling the all in or not.....if your not, then you shouldn't have played the hand in the first place.....
Fold pre
No reads at all? Surely he lost down to 160. You should have some basic idea for his play from previous hands + generic stereotyping. Help us help you.
As played, I'd probably call. I doubt he's open jamming with Qx with the A on the board so I think his range is FDs and Ax. AT+ obv beats you, everything below A9 you beat (besides A4). Any FD you're doing good against.
Of course on the other hand some other player might call or even raise and suddenly you're playing a huge pot with A9. Not a good spot. In the end, it's 28BB and you have top pair with a decent kicker on a flop with potential flush and straight draws and you certainly didn't call preflop to fold now.
why is it a call on the end. you are also facing 2 players behind you that could have checked a playing hand.
not many players will bet a queen here for all their money so its a bluff or a better ace.
What if he has a hand like Ks Qs or Qs Js or Qs Ts? Surely he is willing to get it all in here against A9.
