Hero $2800 - in for $2500 - Just doubled up pretty big with a flopped set vs recs AA. Was card dead earlier but now hitting a few hands.

Hero dealt AK on BTN

UTG +1 Villain 1 $850
Plays way too many hands and had his stack up to $2000 but plays too many hands and dwindles down. Likes to bet/fold a lot - but haven't really seen him ever shove.

UTG + 3 Villain 2 $325
Plays too many hands as well, and couldn't fold his over pair to my flop jam so is a little sticky. He was up to $1500 but shipped it to me and rebought for $500. Is losing now.

Straddle is on
2 limps to $10
Hero goes $55 on BTN
Straddle calls
both limpers call

$227
AK2
Check
Check
Check
I go $125

Straddle folds
Call
Call

I wanted Villian 2 to maybe rejam but he just calls instead . leaves himself with $140ish.

Turn
$602
3

Terrible card

Check
Check
I check

River
$602
8

UTG+1 jams for $680
Fold
Hero???

Never seen villain jam all in, but would think he would go $300 or so with a flush. Pretty strange he would overbet jam - he almost always has the Ah here though.

I'm sizing up all streets and betting turn.

Pre - $65-75

Flop - $150-175

Turn - 3/4 PSB.

Multi way straddled pot this is like 50-60bb deep at most and we flopped top 2pair, no reason to play it slow, if you lost to a turned flush, it's w/e.

Maybe I'm overplaying 2 pair here though.

Bet/fold turn for 1/3 pot

I fold based on your information.

Hand is well played. Might size flop a lil bigger. ~150.

Just a disastrous turn, I don’t understand why we want to bet turn vs 2 ppl when the obvious draw comes in.

As played, folding 100/100 times. Good for V if he shoves Axh here.

Interested to know what people would do if Hero had Ah here instead.

flop was bet so I could reraise if V2 jammed.

If I had Ah it's a pretty EZ turn jam for value. Even if i'm wrong and they have a flush I have 11 outs to improve.

Shove turn

I'm surprised more people aren't betting the turn here. Other than picking up the pot right away it would make the river easier to play.

because 2 people called and the likely hood of one of them having a flush draw on the flop is high especially when I hold 0 hearts and block there pair continuing range.

By checking turn I can at least let them try and bluff.

Size up on flop with that many players. I probably bet $180 or so there.

Turn is b/f for me most likely. Rarely will you get CR bluffed multi-way, so you can safely fold if someone does CR. By checking the turn, you cap your range and announce that you don't have a flush, so V's bluffing frequencies go way up.

AP, I think you need to fold now.

Amana- While I think b/f turn is best, why would you shove? Do you really ever expect to be called by worse? Seems like a huge overplay to me but interested in your thought process.

Well then if this was the plan then you should snap call right?

+1

your plan worked
congrats!

This just smells so much like a flush that got there, esp since you don't block the NF. I think you have to fold here. If you'd gotten it heads up otf, I'd be much more inclined to call, but given two players limp / c pre and then x/c flop, this screams flush draw that got there. If he's bluffing, good for him, but I think this has to be a fold.

EDIT: the fact that it's the first player to act shoving makes his line even stronger. Decent chance the other guy has a flush (esp if first guy is bluffing) and snaps him off straight away.

You should fold - but there's merit in a call. What would this guy do with the NFD on the flop? I find it hard to believe he would just c/c with NFD, and also hard to believe he's taking this line for value.

I think OP's sizing on the flop is fine for the reasons he gave. If 125 and 150 aren't too different in terms of immediate value and he may get a tilter to ram the rest in (and have action open to him), then his bet is good.

I would go a little bit bigger pre, especially with two players who could be titled (one of which who almost certainly is).

Turn, I can go either way. There's enough behind that bet folding and bet calling both seem fairly blah.

Straddled pot. Divide everything by 5 so you can get a better feel for the hand and what you would do in your game. You should see how bf turn really isn’t an option and shoving is the only play.

Shoving turn is super bad. I actually think this is a relatively easy hand to get away from given the flop action. Some people really don't know how to get away from a hand....

I would kiss it OTT and OTF.

Likely a failed check raise attempt OTT.

The extra 80$ really is nothing. I would just consider it a psb OTR.

What could V be psbetting with OTR that isn't for value in 2/5?

I am not sure how he would play a NFD on the flop. I'm just so surprised V2 just called flop and left himself so little behind. Really screwed up my plan.

I don't like a turn bet/fold line. We deny ourselves 3-4 outs - I almost always assume V1 had at least the Ah or they both had at least an A.

Shoving turn is meh - doesn't really gain anything - only lets them play perfect. Fold when behind and call when i'm crushed.

Probably should of called river? I ended up folding but not too thrilled with my decision. He ended up getting stacked 15 minutes after I racked up. Not sure what he had but saw him later at the cage getting a rebuy.

River is a fold. You can go a bit bigger OTF, but that's really a detail imo. OTT vs a single villain I bet/fold, vs both villains I prefer to check behind as well.. wp imo.

With Ah I bet/call turn.

You said you hadn't seen him shove before, but had he ever had a stack down to 600 by the river? Sounds like most of the night he was deeper and wasn't in 'shoving is a normal sized bet' space. But the flip side is, you asked how he would play NFD. Well we don't know, but I know I'd see no need t c/r flop with a hand like A5s when we'd only get called by better and prob can't get big aces to fold.

I also don't understand why you're sure he has the Ah. He doesn't seem like a deep thinker from what you described.

Turn play is fine imo. River, I can see where you'd call, but I think a fold vs most V's is correct. What I'd do in this spot would have to be a gut feeling thing. Which is often wrong fwiw.

wp OP (assuming you folded river), I'm a big fan of the flop bet fwiw.