Hero is pretty new to the table and has chipped up to $1050 with 1 3bet pre with AJ over a $20 open and a call.

Villain - Maybe $800 - Never played with him but he is maybe a 25 year old white guy and wearing a hat. Seems to be confortable.

Fish - $500 - Just a fish who keeps calling flop and folding turn lol - seems to be clueless and probably a donator.

Hero picks up AJ in mid position +1 and goes $20
Fish calls CO
Villain calls in SB

$65
AT6
Check
Hero goes $40
Fish calls
Villain calls

turn
6
Villain donks $75
Hero goes $200

Definitely not. Honestly what are you doing

Um no?

What sort of range are you expecting to get value from?

what do you think is standard about the raise here? We have 1 pair decent kicker on a paired board facing aggression from an oop player.

Looks like he is donking an ace or weak pair - maybe flush draw + gutshot. Also I look really strong when I raise here.

Not exactly sure what i'm repping? I guess a boat - or some sort of 6.

If he had a 6 I kind of set my own price, instead of calling turn and than evaluating river. And I get value from flush draws.

So you're trying to fold out worse?

God forbid you let him do it again otr

you have a good point - and perhaps calling is superior. Getting him to fold now is not ideal.

What kind of range would you put him on?

A lot of 6's honestly but should be a fair amount of Ax as well. Occasionally hands that picked up a FD. I'm calling but I'm not happy

I actually like these spots bc Vs are just crushing themselves with the line. More than just keeping things wide and realizing your equity more often, moving that 125 toward a river call will yield a ton about this guy's tendencies. His turn lead into an uncapped range is trash and you should call w ur entire flop betting range (if it's not too wide)

Yea that's not the line I would really take ever. But that's why I like coming and here and reading this hand histories and everyone's thoughts. I'm going to flat his turn and like someone else said, not like it but I think raising here is spazzy.

Like other posters have said, not a standard raise

With reads a raise could be ok on the premise you raise/fold for less $ than you would pay off on river (or raise and check the river unimproved)

i think the 75 is an attempt to inspire aggression from you, which he got, i would have called the 75 here he could have a 6

jus call then eval his river bet

Yuck. Call and evaluate river. What are you hoping to get value from with this raise?

Results

That was my thinking. If I just call turn, i'm going to have to probably call most rivers. Also raising now, might even get him off a hand like AQ????? Doubtful but possible.

in after results, but turn feels like a fistpump call with the chance to control the showdown price on the river. Very excited to get value from Ax

I think trappy Vs could have 6x easily in this spot. I see it all the damn time. They KNOW someone has Ax and might fold to a c/r so they instead donk small to build the pot and avoid letting turn check through. They also do this with AQ/AK.

What are you doing when he donks $150 OTR? Do you really think he takes such a line with worse when our range is strong?

I seem to get owned in these spots all the time vs these fishes. They always seem to have the goods.

I wouldn't have a problem folding AJ on a true brick river but there's a lot of information to consider before we get to that point. I'm really not concerned about V tendencies here either, I mean I'd prefer watching this hand play out a few times and taking notes, but primarily all I really care about is my range on the river card. The very last thing I want to do is raise in a spot where I have about a million hands that want to call, many of which currently or are about to have an equity stranglehold on anything this guy just donked, including 6x.

Generally, If I'm paying off two big street bets IP down to AJ on bricks, I probably have made a mistake doing so - even if it's the best hand sometimes.