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2/5 spot vs. fishy reg 2/5 spot vs. fishy reg

02-26-2019 , 05:28 PM
H: Younger guy at the table. Has been card-dead for an 2 hours, folding nearly all hands and have used tight image to 3b a twice to steal some pots pre-flop and also successfully bluffed once (river-raise) and tabled 64o (OTB) to the table. $650-$700 effective

V: Fishy reg = guy who plays a ton of poker but not good. Have already seen him do random flop-raises with middling hands, donk into flop-raiser with medium strength hands, sometimes decides to call really light (he happened to be good), gets scared when he has a good hand (he almost folded nut flush on a paired board to a river bet). His decisions have mostly paid off and he's sitting at 300bb.

Hero dealt AQo UTG+2, raises to 20. V calls in UTG+3, one other caller.

(~60) Flop: Ah Ks 5h (hero does not have a heart). Hero c-bets 25, V raises to 80. Other player folds. Hero calls.
(~240). Turn: offsuit 2. Hero bets 190. Villain tank calls.
(~620). River: offsuit 3. Hero looks down at stack of ~400 left. Shoves.

In hindsight I should have sized larger on the flop. Any other thoughts on how it was played? Thoughts on potential 3b on flop?
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02-26-2019 , 05:59 PM
This seems like a live read/you had to be there spot OTR. IDK this guys tendencies but I think we should check and let him bluff W/o a heart in our hand and I think the range we are targeting by shoving is razor thin (like AJ and A10 only?).

Turn is kinda interesting. Are we leading because we are (almost)sure the villain takes his free card with FD's?

C/shoving the turn so sexy in this spot IMO if you think V will be betting often.
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02-26-2019 , 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by bovadafiend
This seems like a live read/you had to be there spot OTR. IDK this guys tendencies but I think we should check and let him bluff W/o a heart in our hand and I think the range we are targeting by shoving is razor thin (like AJ and A10 only?).

Turn is kinda interesting. Are we leading because we are (almost)sure the villain takes his free card with FD's?

C/shoving the turn so sexy in this spot IMO if you think V will be betting often.
This was my first time playing with V, my read was via observing him to my direct left for a couple hours.

I saw him raise flop and check-back turn at least twice, so that influenced my decision. I noted he seemed to over-raise flops, probably thinking he's playing "big-stack". He raised my flop c-bet once and I folded.

Him taking a free card on the turn was a risk, I do like a check shove there though. Betting and x/r are similar.
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02-26-2019 , 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by fishsoup
This was my first time playing with V, my read was via observing him to my direct left for a couple hours.

I saw him raise flop and check-back turn at least twice, so that influenced my decision. I noted he seemed to over-raise flops, probably thinking he's playing "big-stack". He raised my flop c-bet once and I folded.

Him taking a free card on the turn was a risk, I do like a check shove there though. Betting and x/r are similar.

I like the turn lead and sizing with above info. C/shoving allows you to sometimes get the money in against his FD's with just one card to come and that's basically never the case with leading.
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02-26-2019 , 07:18 PM
I think against this guy not 3b'ing the flop is best, you probably don't have to deny equity to a range that you likely crush if he could have all types of stuff

I woulda bet bigger on the flop but besides that it looks good
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02-26-2019 , 07:19 PM
Post looks like clicking buttons to me
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02-26-2019 , 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Minatorr
Post looks like clicking buttons to me
How so? Open to all thoughts, I'm really torn about this hand.
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02-26-2019 , 09:32 PM
25 or 30 is ok size otf. this is all over your range. Bet small when the flop smashes you.

Check turn and take 30 secs or so to call any bet. Villain can't just check here. It shows he's soooooo weak.

Otr, check to induce a bluff from a busted draw then raise small for value. Probably won't get called, but maybe he'll remember the 64 bluff raise.
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02-26-2019 , 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Minatorr
Post looks like clicking buttons to me
+1 imo you allowed him to play perfectly
You let him call with value and fold out his bluffs
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02-27-2019 , 12:02 AM
I dont understand the line either, unless the plan is to make villain fold 2p (which would be pretty optimistic)
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02-27-2019 , 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by monikrazy
I dont understand the line either, unless the plan is to make villain fold 2p (which would be pretty optimistic)
When V is a bigstack fish I'm open to taking non-standard lines to exploit. I'd never consider this line against a decent opponent, but a decent opponent would never raise an UTG open on an AKx board.

I guess x/c both streets (is that what people are advocating for?) might make more sense even with a high risk of turn check. At the very least I'm thinking x/c river makes more sense than shove

There aren't many combos of 2p I'm worried about on this board texture.
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02-27-2019 , 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by fishsoup
When V is a bigstack fish I'm open to taking non-standard lines to exploit. I'd never consider this line against a decent opponent, but a decent opponent would never raise an UTG open on an AKx board.

I guess x/c both streets (is that what people are advocating for?) might make more sense even with a high risk of turn check. At the very least I'm thinking x/c river makes more sense than shove

There aren't many combos of 2p I'm worried about on this board texture.
yea this is why I said it looks good, bc it is against this guy, doing this against someone else would be pretty reckless.

I think it is a good r/o for your hand vs his range, so going for 3 streets in this instance looks like a good play bc he can call with worse for sure
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02-28-2019 , 02:32 PM
Results - V snapped with A3o (no hearts)

Still unsure about this spot. I like x/r or bet on turn, not sure about river (I think x/snap c is better)

Last edited by fishsoup; 02-28-2019 at 02:41 PM.
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