Live 2/5

Villain in the hand is pretty straight forward player. Maybe in his late 40's playing a very tight pre flop style and fit/fold post mostly, but is definitely capable of some bluffs.

dealt to Hero (~$650) on the HJ TT

Folded around to me and i raise to 15, villain (~350) in the BTN calls and the blinds fold.

flop: TTJ

Im like wtf do i do now. Since i check folded a hand earlier where i raised pre and check folded a low board, i decided to check to induce a bet. But he checked.

Turn: Q

I bet 35 and he quickly calls

River: K

I bet $85, he tanks for like 6 secs and raises to $200 with shaky hands leaving him w/ 20 bucks behind.

hero?

What are you doing on the flop? BET.

fold river.

pff puke fold as played haha.

in the future Bet flop, turn. River is iffy. Definitly Bet but raise is fold I think.

This doesnt make sense as how you described him. I think you just put that there to justify your call

At my casino, this a bad beat hand and I'm shoving so fast there are scorch marks on the felt. hrre though with no bad beat, I probably sigh-call just cuz zomg I have quads.

If villain had 89ss and turned straight flush vs quads, and there was a bad beat, would the river void it?

haha not quite. He can definitely bluff if shown weakness but i doubt he raises the river on that board with air. He is never bluffing here but i thought he might be raising the river for value with QQ or KK, but he would 3bet me with those hands pre 100% and wouldn't raise a 8 So yeah i have quads and cant beat anything.

well i thought he was pretty much drawing dead here and would fold to a cbet, decided to peel off a card to increase the chance of him making a hand.

yea. Hand is 9TJQK not 89TJQ

There's no BBJ in this hand.


While he is drawing dead (almost), he won't put you on exactly quads to a cbet. There are a tonne of hands that will continue, 89, FDs, any J, broadway cards esp KQ. Sometimes any pair will call one street as people are so used to cbets.

Checking is bad:
1) He will check behind a lot of his calling range
2) the pot is smaller for further streets and you have a monster
3) you lose the betting initiative and it's harder to extract value on further streets.
4) Stacks size makes it hard to get it in by the river.

Usually both cards must play and that is not possible here.

OP lead flop, it is a drawy flop and your only hope to make any money at all is to just lead and hope he has some piece.

Like, it would be different if it were TT3, then you could possibly check and allow villain to catch a card ott or peel a turn bet with a low pp or w/e.

But on that flop villain either has a piece or doesn't. I mean its still w/e, its usually hard to get paid with quads.

As played he would have to be a major spewer to be jamming over your river lead with anything but a strtflsh. Or the type to overvalue a hand like an A high flush (non ), which I mean some villains do.

Still this is a fold.

Bah, you're right. I'm probably still calling just so I can bore my friends with another bad beat story.

Hero folds and posts this hand in bbv

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Sick run-out obviously, but clear fold.

Villain can't be value betting worse and has essentially 0 Full Houses in his range.

You are getting ~3.4:1 so he'd have to be bluffing over 23% of the time to call. Hard to believe a tight fit/fold amateur is bluffing here that often, especially given live reads.

This is a flashing neon sign that says "I have the nuts". Every time.

Meant * A high straight obviously

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Runout. I fold and go home. Or maybe to the slots.

WHenever we flop monster we shouldn't let that detract us from our normal play.

Doesn't matter if we flop a set, the straight, a flush, or even quads.

The question we need to ask ourselves is? Can lessor hands still call us.

The board is pretty wet and we should get calls from FDs, SDs, Jx, and even pockets trying to peel one off.

So flop should be a bet to induce calls and even raises.

THere was an article in Bluff magazine a year ago about the one chip bet. It's one of my favorite plays to induce raises and ego-spazz. Simply throw out one $5 chip here and almost all villains can't help but spazz out and raise you.

So I bet $5 or $10 here on flop hoping to induce.

Turn bet is fine, River is sick puke fold.

Just make sure that you don't miss a jackpot because "some" casinos have jackpots even if both cards don't play. Once you verify that there is no BBJ or jackpot of any kind, then just fold