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Originally Posted by endodocdc
Ok. if giving him one combo of A8, why would villain play A8 passively on a double flush draw board on turn but you would expect him not to play his set of 4s the same way? The profile and ranging of villain are very contradictory. As I said, if anyone is giving him a range of 2pair, then you almost have to include set of 4s, as the two hand types play very similar (either fast or decpetive/trappy/weak tight)
I just don't see any inferior value hands to our's and his bluffs shut down once we shove. We basically have a bluff catcher.
I can see one combo of A8 (maybe 2) in his range because he'd likely call the c-bet with it to eval, and would occasionally (but not often at all) flat the turn, just because Hero's sizing tells him Hero is not on a FD.
44 would have to flat with a strong, but vulnerable hand twice, much less likely than the (still not very likely) turn only required for A8.
That said, I agree with your bottom line, and have from the get-go.