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2/5 - River spot facing aggression in 3bet pot vs. capable OMC 2/5 - River spot facing aggression in 3bet pot vs. capable OMC

04-13-2019 , 08:00 PM
Here’s a hand from a 2/5 (1K Max) 9 handed game last night that I’d like some feedback on. It’s a rec-heavy, loose-passive game, despite it being the biggest NLHE game in this 10-table card room. Also lucky for me, the regs left a bit early last night.

Relevant players:

Hero on BU (1700) - Young asian male with LAG image. Most active at the table preflop opening, iso-raising, and 3betting. Few hands have gone to showdown due to my aggression.

Villain in SB (~2000) - Not your typical OMC, but still OMC at heart if that makes sense. Winning player in this lineup. Capable of stabbing/semi-bluffing when checked to and river bluffs. Ex. Call cbet on Ah2h5c, stab on Qh turn when checked to and barrel river large on a Ts. At the same time, classic OMC tendencies such as multiple instances of checking back a set with clear value bet due to perceived scare cards. Pre flop he does lots of limp calling, but aggressive with strong hands. Based on hands I’ve seen, 3bet range seems to be AK, JJ+ in most spots.

OTTH:

Preflop: EP limps. Hero isos to 35 with AcKd (6bb + limps is my standard). Villain raises to 165. Limper folds. Hero calls

Flop (340): KcQdJh
Villain continues for 120. Hero calls

Turn (580): As
Villain bets 300. Hero calls

River (1180) 9h
Villain bets 700. Hero?

Specific questions:
1. River: Villain can have all the sets but I expect him to check JJ and QQ given prior play. I think his river range is really just AA and KK here but it’s literally 2 combos. Don’t think he can have any T given preflop. What should I do with this holding? More broadly, what should my calling range be on this river? AK seems to be a better call than JJ or QQ given removal. I also could not think of any bluffs here.
2. Pre-flop: Against this villain I like flatting better than 4bet / folding. Happy to play IP this deep, getting the right price against his range. However, I’m not opposed to 4betting at some freq. Thoughts on what my 4bet vs. flatting range should be here?

Thanks in advance! First post so feedback on the post structure / level of detail welcome as well.
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04-13-2019 , 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Candates

Villain in SB (~2000) - Not your typical OMC, but still OMC at heart if that makes sense. Winning player in this lineup. Capable of stabbing/semi-bluffing when checked to and river bluffs. Ex. Call cbet on Ah2h5c, stab on Qh turn when checked to and barrel river large on a Ts.
Forgot to include: Villain had 7h7x in this prior hand
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04-13-2019 , 09:00 PM
Fold pre
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04-14-2019 , 08:23 AM
Hand is about 40% vs the OP range, and a pre flop call would be 38% = 130/(212+130). I'd fold to this sizing.

As played, ez fold. Letting it go on the turn.
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04-14-2019 , 09:41 AM
V played this hand somewhat strangely.

Preflop is obviously not strange.

The flop is a pretty bad flop for V as hero's hand hits it pretty hard.

V doesn't slow down anywhere even though the nuts change on the turn with the Tx straight.

V line looks FOS, but I think he has QQ or JJ so you need to fold anyway.
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04-14-2019 , 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by matzah_ball
Fold pre
V doesn't seem particularly OMCish tbh, but this.

As played I think I'm just mucking the turn. Not sure what I beat.

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Originally Posted by Lapidator
V played this hand somewhat strangely.

Preflop is obviously not strange.

The flop is a pretty bad flop for V as hero's hand hits it pretty hard.

V doesn't slow down anywhere even though the nuts change on the turn with the Tx straight.

V line looks FOS, but I think he has QQ or JJ so you need to fold anyway.
I read the hand before I read the player description and I was like "that line looks FOS" but I'm not sure what V has in his threebet pre range that needs to bluff here. Like, there's not even 99.
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04-15-2019 , 02:31 PM
Does his 3bet range change vs. you, because if his range is JJ, AK, I fold the turn -- heck, even TT got there. And 99 beats you on the river, so never calling (unless read is wrong). At best you should be chopping.
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04-15-2019 , 08:23 PM
I probably just fold pre, his 3b sizing is pretty big and you’re offsuit. Even hands like small PP would be better here and SCs, esp this deep. AKo you’re either winning a small pot or losing a big one this deep
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04-16-2019 , 12:09 AM
Thanks all. I folded, he showed KK. Still somewhat surprised he took that line.

Pre-flop I agree with fold in retrospect. Definitely overvalued this spot in game and admittedly overlooked the sizing. What should we do with our continuing range in this spot? Should we even have a 4bet range?

On the river, I folded pretty quickly and wished I’d folded turn. I guess I posted this more to hear about the spot in general - let’s say we get to the river QQ?
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04-16-2019 , 07:01 AM
I wonder what V plan was if you check shove river

And if you have QQ then you don’t block AA KK
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