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02-27-2020 , 08:37 AM
I get dealt AQ in the SB. A tricky young Asian LAG opens for $15 UTG+1. The cutoff and button call and I decide to just call with my AQ. Effective stacks about $1000. The BB also calls and the flop is Q72 Checks to the LAG who bets $65, the cutoff calls and I call. Turn is 9 Everybody checks. River is A giving me top two pair. I bet $110 into a pot of about $280 (playing 10% rake, $15 max.) The LAG instantly grabs $450 and tosses them into the pot. The cutoff folds. Should I call here?
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02-27-2020 , 08:57 AM
His story isnt quite consistent for value hands such as flopped flushes and sets, and a tricky LAG is going to show up with bluffs in this spot for sure.

Problem i see is does someone who is holding they Key bluffing card, the A hearts, now turn his hand into a bluff given he has just rivered top pair?
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02-27-2020 , 09:02 AM
Your sizing is good but should perhaps be even smaller since we block much of villains calling range.

If we had the A2/5 River raise it's a call but without blockers to their value range I fold.

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02-27-2020 , 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Franchise804
Your sizing is good but should perhaps be even smaller since we block much of villains calling range.

If we had the A2/5 River raise it's a call but without blockers to their value range I fold.

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The graphic didnt show but to clarify we're calling with AQ and folding without yes? id agree with that
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02-27-2020 , 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by PROPOSITION_JOE
The graphic didnt show but to clarify we're calling with A2/5 River raiseQ and folding without yes? id agree with that
Yep!

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02-27-2020 , 10:15 AM
Yeah I think A Jx is a better call here than A:diamond Qx, although, it's probably too thin to value bet A Jx here OTR, so we never show up with this hand anyway.

If we fold all our AQ (no heart), we're overfolding this spot, but whatever. This line screams value. His only natural bluffs are K Jx, and he has a ton of flushes here. Fine to overfold.

Last edited by ChaosInEquilibrium; 02-27-2020 at 10:20 AM.
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02-27-2020 , 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by ChaosInEquilibrium
Yeah I think A2/5 River raise Jx is a better call here than A2/5 River raise Qx, although, it's probably too thin to value bet A2/5 River raise Jx here OTR, so we never show up with this hand anyway.

If we fold all our AQ (no heart), we're overfolding this spot, but whatever. This line screams value. His only natural bluffs are K 2/5 River raise Jx, and he has a ton of flushes here. Fine to overfold.
Folding AJo preflop though, yes? Honestly I might fold AQo pre as well but if villain is laggy and callers are fish then it's fine.

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02-27-2020 , 12:31 PM
Call as played.

A flopped flush more than likely bets the turn as another heart would kill action. If he has the remaining AhAs, bad luck, though he might bet the turn w/an OP and NFD.

Pre - depending on his +1/3x raising range, and with all of the dead $ in the pot, I'd more often than not 3b to $95.
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02-27-2020 , 08:59 PM
I think I like checking the river.
- He should be betting all hands you are hoping to get value from.
- It's a better card for his range, so I'd expect him to bet often including bluffs.
- You avoid situations like this.
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02-27-2020 , 09:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Colombo
I think I like checking the river.
- He should be betting all hands you are hoping to get value from.
- It's a better card for his range, so I'd expect him to bet often including bluffs.
- You avoid situations like this.
+1
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02-27-2020 , 09:55 PM
Since he's doing this into 2 players, prob a fold, but still an ugly spot. I'm in the check river camp let him or the CO take a stab at it. This would be a great play if he had the NF blocker.
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02-28-2020 , 12:39 AM
Thanks for responses - so maybe I should have just checked the river then? I recall I was hoping for a call from an ace, though maybe an ace would bet anyway. His river raise can surely only be a strong hand or a bluff, but how often would people bluff in this situation? I could easily be value betting a flush, and they've shown weakness by checking the turn.
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02-28-2020 , 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jdp
they've shown weakness by checking the turn.
I've always said this to other players in these types of HH's - when an aggressive LAG starts checking, red flags should be going up. Another reason to check the river.
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