Hero $1125 - Still new to this session - table has 1 or 2 people I recognize but the same ole late night donks. Chipped up with some random 2 pair hand that didn't go to showdown.

Villain 1 $2000+ - Some indian guy who probably is playing too many hands.

Villain 2 $800 - White guy playing way too many hands.

Hero is dealt TT

Villain 1 UTG goes $20
Villain 2 UTG +2 calls
CO calls
BTN calls
Hero SB $130
Villain 1 calls
Villain 2 calls
fold
fold

$435
975

Hero $200
Villain 1 calls
Villain 2 folds

I put him on 88, JJ or QQ. I think he's raising flop with 2pair+ on this kind of board and 4betting KK or AA. He might have a random 9 7 or 5. My hand looks like QQ+ or AK.

$835
A

Hero $250
Villain calls - and pretty quickly

Not the worst card - obviously will fold if he jams, but with the quick call I don't think he is super strong and probably has something like JJ with Js or any random spade. I can rep all aces, boats, and have a pretty strong range.

$1335
River 9

Hero Jams $500~

Pretty easy river jam in my mind based on my turn bet. Thoughts?

Call pre. Im pretty sure EV of calling here >>> EV of squeezing. Unless by playing too many hands you mean they’re maniacs preflop, which I don’t think usually is the case (loose /= extremely wide RFI).

Post seems ok if you’re willing to jam bricks.

Tho i think flop is probably a x/eval, board is terrible for us and we lose to every overpair that flatted pre and all set

Here are the questions I would be asking myself:
Has UTG been opening too many hands or are they only playing too many hands?
Does UTG seem positionally aware since you sat at the table?

UTG calling turn quickly suggests to me they likely have JJ-QQ with a spade.
I think you probably lost here unfortunately.
(As played, I think jamming the turn might of been the better option, but once you’re at the river, I’m never folding, so yes, by all means jam.)

I also would only flat pre here like Minatorr said. You’re going to be in lots of tricky spots OOP here. I don’t hate the 3!, but I personally play these pots with 77-1010 in the SB better when they are smaller to start.

Pre is whatever, should be larger if ur gonna do this...but for sure check rip that flop.

I like the raise pre to isolate OOP. Flop bet is good as it sounds like Both Vs have wide ranges with over cards. With the discription of V it sounds like he might float a flop like this in position with overs. If you agree with this read than that turn is not a great card although you have more As in your range so I like the bet. Vs call on turn tells me he probably isn’t folding to a bet < 1/2 pot size on the river. What are you really repping AK or AA. I x/ fold this river

I was also thinking that this is a pretty good/jam spot OTF rather than even getting to the turn if V bets. Let it fall how it may.

Why do you prefer x/shoving this flop over just a large flop bet? It seems like if Vs have overs it will check through and give them a chance to hit. And if they have us beat they will bet and we reduce our fold equity on the shove.

Yeah, I’m with you here.

When V1 and V2 flat H preflop raise without 4b it seems unlikely they have QQ+ here. If they can call H shove otf with JJ it’s a hero call.

Granted, Ace on turn is better for H’s still uncapped range. So H barrels and V insta-flats! With what? V obviously doesn’t believe H has AA, perhaps because he has a blocking Ace.

So now we’re now committed in a tight spot but so is V. On river jam V gets 7-2. I’d rather give him way shorter odds on the flop. I’m thinking we can fold out Qq/JJ and all Aces and Kk are finding a call.

When we 3! OOP with 10’s it’s hard to ask for a better flop than this.
SPR is already very low when either player bets the flop here and by the turn it is lol low. That’s why I don’t really love the small turn bet here. It doesn’t really accomplish anything.
X/jam on this board forces V to fold out some of his marginal holdings here after committing another bet to the pot. It puts the difficult decision on V, rather than us. Also, if V has an overpaid here, we’re stacking off regardless almost anytime we commit to a 3! pre and hit a board like this.
Even if V has JJ or QQ here, they are put to a more difficult decision than a b/b/b line from us OOP.

I imagine Ava will probably have a few other good points why, but this is my flop x/jam reasoning.
Or just jam turn AP. In the very least jam turn here. Turn bet is pointless at this size and SPR.

We also will have other x/jam holdings in our perceived range here. Admittedly, 10’s are on the lower end of a x/jam range here, but that’s not a reason to never do it.

If we X flop we have to assume villains are going to bet.

Not a bad idea though. Could of been a pretty nice play


As for turn bet - it's fine if I have AK or AA in my range. I left enough behind that a river jam could have fold equity.

I think 3b could be a bit larger

If you are turning your hand into a bluff OTT, then why not just rip it?

Definitely, but this isn’t a bad board to check with 10’s. Lots of worse hands in V’s range will stab/fold and lots of hands in our perceived x/jam range are better than 10’s, which puts V in a tough spot.

Respectfully, tbh the turn and river bets are too small to generate much FE.
I think you would have been far better off jamming the turn or trying the flop x/jam play.

Thanks for the explanation! I think my games are just too nitty where V would never bet into a 3bet pot without an over pair here even when checked too.

500 into 1300 is not enough for this work. You need like 1k into 1300 minimum.

He gets over 4 to 1. I wouldn't fold queens here if I called the turn.


Jam turn if you're going to jam at all.


Overall terrible 3! spot with TT from the SB vs UTG and UTG +2. You are usually crushed here. Just flat and set mine. You played this awful.


You guys keep trying to win every hand and just spew nonstop. Live players overcall not overfold. Do this with a value hand and not TT.

Results

Are you trying to get him to fold? or are your shoving for value?

Glad you won DJ.
Did V say what they had?
Maybe 88 or 66 with a spade? Weird hand.

this

you turned your hand into a bluff with not enough ammo. The indian guy, who raised pre and called a big 3bet, called the flop and snap called when an ace came ott (nothing to think about meaning he prob beats AK) is calling 99.9% of his range otr. You caught him with one tenth of a percent of his range that folded. Consider it a gift.

I would call pre rather than 3bet an unknown UTG indain raiser with a med pp (not to be biased but indians usually call 3bets pre any way).

Indians do always call 3bets.

Thanks boo!

If I had to guess, he had JJ or QQ exactly and didn't like the A turn. I'm probably folding turn in his spot with those hands though.

He asked what I had later on, i've never played with him before - and he seemed really disappointed when I told him I had TT.

What range are you 3-betting pre?

Wow, can’t believe he’d fold JJ or QQ after getting that far. I’m so confused.

Yes. I'm left wondering what is the lesson from this hand.

Did aggression factor with an uncapped range win this hand? Or did V just butcher it?

It’s mostly just played strange in general imo.
I’m never calling turn to fold to a river bet with QQ-JJ if I’m V.
I would either x/jam flop as Hero, or shove turn at least. But I also wouldn’t 3! pre.
I would either jam flop as V, or make my decision for stack on the turn.