I have been playing for about an hour, and played 3 pots vs villain and won all 3 ( pots were all under 300 ). He seems active, and limp called a couple times, but no real info. Effective stack $1300.

Hero straddles $10 BTN, villain raises utg $30. Everybody folds hero calls with 6d6h. Flop comes JTTr villain checks hero checks behind. Turn is 6 ( brings fd ). Villain checks hero bets $45 and gets check raised to $90. Hero calls. River is 4. Villain bets $150 ( into $247 ) hero raises to $450. Villain thinks for 5 seconds and shoves for $1200 total. Hero????

I flat turnraise because I can't see him play many value hands this way and don't want to scare him. I also think that he doesn't give me credit for a J since I checked flop, so that increases the likelihood that he is check raise bluffing IMO.

On the river I'm raising to get value from a randomly played J, or to have him level himself into calling with AA or KK or so. I considered just calling since it's hard to see him have a value hand that I beat and would get value from, but seems like there is to much value in raising since my hand is pretty underrepped.

Any thoughts on any streets welcome

Well played but I would've reraised that turn min raise, up to this point he's telling j-10 or air ( right?) if I get jammed on turn im calling, if I get called I'm just going to then perhaps flat river for showdown cause I'm not good enough to fold a boat.

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With given dynamics between you and villain so far....also taking into account the fact that your hand looks underrepped and disguised going into river...I'm calling off here. Considering that you checked the flop, I would be under the assumption V would think his AA or KK is good here. Sounds like it's going to be a cooler story though....

Did he show up with quads or JJ I'm assuming??

Unless you have history with V, is he really playing AA/KK this way and 3b shoving river on a paired board where you could easily have a T? It sounds nitty but I think calling river or raise/folding to like $375 is best. I don't hate the raise to $450, but it's going to be tough to call a 3b shove on the river. Crappy spot, seems like a fold, but don't know if I could do it.

Need more reads on villain. As played, I fold here solely based on how unlikely villains 4b bluff on river. Looks like a slow played JJs.

Probably r/f'ing like $420 unless dynamic with villain is crazy.

It's pretty interesting because to me there isn't 1 hand being played for a raise UTG that doesn't cbet this board other than a slow played played JJ or TT. And this hand is a great example why not to slow play because it cost him your stack.... Unless you shipped it.

If he shows up with anything else here he must think the meta game going on between you two is more serious than a few small pots played together..

Ugh. Min raise on the turn is begging for a call. On river, I'd hate to not get more value than $150, but when he raises, I don't see how we can be good.

Did you think about what you would do before you raised the river?

I don't like raise/fold because I don't want to get pushed out by hands we beat but then if he is raising, we are prob beat 95+% of the time.

Ugh, gross. I think I fold and wish I would have just called on the river.

Maybe AT plays this way but that's gotta be the very bottom of his range and you're right at the top of yours. In the moment I'm not sure I can find a fold but all things considered this looks like a perfectly played JJ or JT

Question about our river raise, what are we hoping for value from?

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I think its very possible he plays any broadway with a ten this way. Sometimes the easiest thing to do is think about what villain DOESNT do.

Villain likely DOESN'T do the following;

Bluff raise the river
Raise/shove the river with a pair (A-J, AA,KK,QQ)

That being said Jacks, tens and jack ten are the only hands that beat you. Its really hard for villain to have these hands given the board.

I agree with a pp about the river bet. I think a call in position is the best play here. Even if you miss value a showdown could be very valuable later. If you elect to 3 bet then you gotta be stacking off and being happy about it.

One interesting thing to note about villains play, if he really had JJ/TT/JT he check min raised the turn and you called and then leads the river OOP. I would expect the three hands mentioned to c/r the river. I think more often than not this is a lone ten.

Would you check the river and risk a check behind if you were V with either hand (JJ or even a Tx? I wouldn't. H called a check-raise on turn so since he's showed interest I'd be betting as much as I can get called on the river. Also, if I was V and had a T and got raised on the river, I'd be calling, not shoving $800 on top.

My point is if the person calls a min c.r on the turn they aren't checking back very often. I expect a river bet. I agree, I would call too. But at the same time villain may not think hero has JJ if they have a ten, and probably consider the 6 and the 4 bricks.

Your goal when raising here is to get thin value from Tx hand (everything else is folding). This is a very small percentage of his range considering he is an UTG opener.

You shouldn't raise the river being this deep because you put yourself in a bad spot (as you know).

call turn / call river

Bet flop

I have a hard time believing villain is thinking about what the top if your range is.

This is a fold.

Results???

After re-reading...with a check-raise on turn and bet into river...I'm folding to his re-raise all-in. Unfortunately think I would just flat his original bet on river. His line looks consistent with JJ, TT....with an EP raiser, think he'd have to be pretty bad to call your raise with QQ+....just don't see him showing up with Tx and checking flop and turn...his raise would also be bigger on turn rather than a min-raise.

+1 to everything here.

I mean, i cant see any villain who is not a complete spewmonkey take this line and not having sixes full beat. Especially the min check raise on turn and 3 bet raising the river is strong as hell and never a bluff IMO. If he has a ten like Q-10 or K-10 i believe he only just calls your river raise, dont bomb 3 betting it. This is JJ,1010 or JT like 90-95 percent of the times, maybe even closer to 100 percent. KK or AA is just so far off with this line i have trouble taking it serious.

Grunch

So we don't know what villans utg range is. For a typical 2/5 game I have to assume it is realatively tight. Something like AQ+ 88+. The way he has played this he is telling a pure monster. I just don't see him showing up with J10 very often. So it looks like 1010 or quads. The one thing I don't agree with is the likelihood that villian is ever check raise bluffing with a min raise. You just won't run into many players that are capable of that, more often than not it is the nuts.

So I actually like everything you did in the hand except for your raise on the river. It sounds like villian is realatively passive and this line screams the nuts. I recently committed ona post that was some what similar as far as the super strong line. Turns out when it smells like the nuts it usually is.

Your raise size otr is too big btw

If you raise it needs to be with the intent of folding to a re-raise. 6s full is too strong to me to fold, so I'd just call.

Call.

Barring a strong read, I doubt he checks jacks full or quads to you OTT after you check back the flop. Given your line, he probably considers AT the stone cold nuts here.

Well you're losing to 6 combos of JT, 1 combo of TT and 3 combos of JJ so you're losing to 10 combos total.

I think the way this has been played it's likely to be JJ. The way you've played this you HAVE to call off OTR.

this is villains range;
only 1 of the 6 combos of AA for spaz
2 combos of ATs
beating 3 combos

1 combos of JT,
1 combo of TT and
3 combos of JJ
losing to 5 combos.

So you have 33.4% 1.99:1 equity against V's range.
You are calling $730 to win $1,860 or 2.55:1 or 28.2% equity.
Its close but its a call. If you remove 1 combo of AA then you have 25.3% equity and then its a fold.

btw, I think you played the hand prefect. I can't imagine only calling the $150 (pot $247) bet OTR with an underrepped boat, the V could have so many worse hands like AA,KK,ATs, especially when you add all 12 combos of AA and KK.

Hopefully, you induced AA to spaz

I think this is very optimistic, given the flop check, turn min-raise and river 3bet (most people would just call the raise w/ AT...?)

results pls??