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07-14-2019 , 01:25 PM
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hemloc11
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History: V sits down to hero's left just in time to see hero win a pot with 84 bluff. First orbit, V reraises hero's pref $20 raise to $70 and shows 8-10 off after H folds. Banter is friendly after the pot.

Hand: hero (~$500), V covers

Next orbit in the small blind, hero looks down at QhQs. After 2 limpers, hero raises to $25. Almost instantly V reraises to $85 in BB and both limpers fold.

Hero?
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07-14-2019 , 01:47 PM
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Jam.
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07-14-2019 , 06:59 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by XtraScratch8
Jam.
What's the pros/cons of raising $125 or so?
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07-15-2019 , 12:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hemloc11
What's the pros/cons of raising $125 or so?
You’ll be playing out of position. Raise to ~$270, creating a nice stack to pot ratio to jam on most flops
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07-15-2019 , 01:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Poutine
You’ll be playing out of position. Raise to ~$270, creating a nice stack to pot ratio to jam on most flops
I like this line
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07-15-2019 , 11:16 AM
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Yep, go $225 - $250. Sad thing is, he's folding bluffs and raising better, but not much you can do.

Flatting might actually be kind of fun. We have position and only 100bb effective. Yep, I flat and play some poker.

How old are you guys? Vibe? Does he seem like a normal LAG-y player or just having fun?
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07-15-2019 , 01:31 PM
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Yep, go $225 - $250. Sad thing is, he's folding bluffs and raising better, but not much you can do.

Flatting might actually be kind of fun. We have position and only 100bb effective. Yep, I flat and play some poker.

How old are you guys? Vibe? Does he seem like a normal LAG-y player or just having fun?
(We’re not IP)
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07-15-2019 , 01:40 PM
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Oops, I thought we were button. Meh, based on "history" I can go either way. I probably raise, though, but be prepared to gii.
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07-16-2019 , 08:32 AM
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Does anyone consider flatting and x/r-jamming all flops?

Our V seems uber-spewy and I don't want to scare his 96o or whatever out of the pot before we've had a chance to milk another bet or two out of him. Just because he's wild doesn't mean he's oblivious enough to mindlessly dump 500 bucks in when we've 4-bet pre.
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07-16-2019 , 09:01 AM
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How did someone see you win a pot with an 84 bluff?
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07-16-2019 , 02:38 PM
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$200-$215
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07-16-2019 , 03:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mook
Does anyone consider flatting and x/r-jamming all flops?

Our V seems uber-spewy and I don't want to scare his 96o or whatever out of the pot before we've had a chance to milk another bet or two out of him. Just because he's wild doesn't mean he's oblivious enough to mindlessly dump 500 bucks in when we've 4-bet pre.
If we're playing well he can correctly stack off with worse against our range.

I'm never just calling QQ against this player in this spot.
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07-16-2019 , 04:02 PM
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Without more information, if this guy is jacking around and just likes to raise/bluff you, 4b will probably just draw a quick fold and a chuckle from him. I am a lot more likely to flat his 3b, even out of position, and let him blast away.

If you were 200bb deep or more, I'd lean more towards 4b, but this shallow it'll be very easy to get stacks in and I could totally see him ripping or betting very big if he hits a pair with his hand on the flop. on a flop of like T72, I think it's likely you'll face a bet similiar to $150 from a hand like 92o or T8
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07-17-2019 , 08:33 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Minatorr
$200-$215
Here’s what I’m curious about Minatorr.

How are you going to play a K - 10 - 7 board if V calls the $200-215 pre?
Just jam OTF?
And x/f any board with an ace?

I prefer just jamming pre b/c of the bluff dynamic that V created earlier, and he’s more likely to overthink this spot b/c of it.
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