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Originally Posted by KneedUrDough
I'm not that worried about V2 and am even less worried about V3 (he would play KK or AA a little slower I believe.) I am really worried about V1 as I've been playing with him a lot over the last few days (he's in town from Montreal for his wife's friends funeral.) He's a retired lawyer that is staying in one of the nicest hotels in Niagara but he isn't loose with his money on the table. He plays to win (for sport) and chooses not to play $5/$10 because he thinks the players are more skilled than him so he's self aware. I think he plays pretty well but is rather (leaning towards too) nitty.
Can I just call here (folding if he shoves) or is that just terrible? What would I do if he just calls? Just don't feel right now does it? It's got to be a shove or a fold IMO.
I think your range on UTG is too narrow. Having played with this type of player many many hours a couple of things stick out in relation to this situation.
First while they are there to compete and learn/better themselves they are highly active mentally, and makes them slip up on their nitty play, they get bored too. They recover very quickly too. They are also smart enough to know what their perceived image is and to take advantage of it.
With this new information, you can never call here. The villain can ship it with a wider range than you think, he can force you to fold all but KK+. He can flat you and bet any flop and you have to go away unless you strike gold.
So in my mind the question becomes now if we want to RR or shove here... Or to put it another way... Do we want to invite variance by inducing a hero call from V1 or V2 or isolate the SS?