V1 is a competent reg. Not a wizard, but solid taggish play. If anything he errs on the side of too passive and probably calls a bit too loose. But really only a bit, I wouldn't call this a big leak.

V2 - no reads but looks very weak/passive. Not important.

V1 opens 25 from MP2 with ~1000. V2 calls on button with ~800. Hero covers and raises 110 with QQ in BB. V1 calls, V2 folds.

I'd range V1 on 88+, 89s+ AJo+ on his original open. Hard to say what his 3b calling range is. While we have history and he should know I'm competent, I have been running/playing bad for the last hour. This might open up his calling range, but who knows. I haven't been 3betting much FWIW.

Flop: AK5

Hero checks after 20 seconds, V1 checks.

Gross flop, but I'm probably checking almost all of my range here.

Turn: K

Hero? Any merit to a b/f line, or is this c/c all day? Or c/f?

I don't see anything worse calling you, so I'd definitely start by checking.

Check/call seems pretty ambitious, especially against a taggish player who errs on the side of passive. Especially since I'm not sure how much value you can get on the river even when we hit a spade.

Checking the majority of your range on the flop is a mistake.

As played check

Check

I'd check/call 1 street. V is going to have a lot of 77-JJ in his preflop range IMO.

if turn checks through I may go for thin value on the river.

Yeah, I don't understand checking majority of your range on a flop like that after cbetting, but I'd love to hear the reasoning. What type of flop are you cbetting if not one like that?

AP there doesn't seem to be any point in betting the turn but I'd be pretty inclined to call at least a half pot bet after repping a scared underpair.

Regarding checking most of my range on this flop - I should clarify I'm broadly checking here OOP. Being in position changes the analysis.

Anyways thinking goes like this. If I crush this flop, (think AA, KK, AK), I'm blocking many of V's holdings that I can extract value from. Therefore its difficult to extract value by leading. If I whiff this flop, it's difficult for me to bet since this flop hits Villain pf calling range pretty hard. Both V and I know this.

If I had a more intermediate holding, like AT-AQ, I'd check these some amount as well. I don't think he's going to triple barrel bluff me, so I'm comfortable checking the flop here. Note that still, I would be a lot more likely to lead a street here than with the other polarized holdings.

But add it all up, and I'm checking here a lot. In many ways, betting here looks weaker than checking.

I'm not usually this passive in a 3b flop, but this flop and villain make it hard to get excited about leading.

I'd do a continuation bet but as it's played i'd do a continuation bet on the turn. If he has a middle pair that flop is more defeating for him than for you

Good point. Flop seems fine. I am never folding the turn (except for super gross over-bets) because sooo many villains bluff here. C/C turn. Repeat on non-spade river.

If you 2 honestly believe betting looks weaker than checking, then you should be betting all your value hands and expect to get called.

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+1. The fact that you think betting looks weaker than checking is a great argument, imo, for betting almost your whole range here. And, yeah, I'm putting QQ in this betting range.

Hand is interesting. At first thought I was thinking I would check. Generally I would have decent idea of how opponent would play postfix in 3 bet pots. Use that info to gameplan.

But I think your right here. But I am not betting for value. Think I am turning QQ into a bluff, or equity protection as it would be.

Don't see us getting value from much worse. But by betting he has over half his range that needs to fold. So I like betting flop.

Check/folding turn

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As the 3 bettor preflop, I'm betting almost my entire range here on this flop - it's wet and my range has all the strong hands in it, while the caller is relatively capped and his range can contain a bunch of draws to strong hands.

AP, I'm checking this turn, possibly calling (likely behind IMO) if I'm getting odds on the 11 river cards I'd like to see.

Why would we ever bet this flop with QQ

Good post. It depends how often you 3bet pre and what hands. If you're mostly weighted towards value, Axs and few scs and suited broadways then it makes sense to bet your whole range small in this board; it puts villain in a tough spot even IP because of the range disadvantage.

The problem with your checking strategy is it's hard to find hands that want to x/f except for JJ QQ no spade, and 2 combos of each low sc maybe.

But who cares about any of that vs these 2 opponent's! QsQx is the absolute best hand to check the flop with. Turn is a x/c or a fancy x/r. Would rather x/r QsTx, QsJx if you 3bet those pre (which I don't) so I guess QsQx is a good x/r bluff if you ever wanna x/r AA or AK. I would x/c though