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Old 09-01-2019, 02:02 PM   #1
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2/5 QQ with deep stacks facing aggression

Villain on a major heater - calls a lot of raises even oop and deck has been smacking her in the face. Earlier hand against her, she made big raise on flop with SF draw on flop after calling raise with 46, so she is not always passively playing draws.

Table has been fairly loose and aggressive overall

Villain at 2000, hero at 1300

3 limps to hero in SB, who raises to 35 with QQ

Villain flats in BB, 2 other limpers call

Flop(140) 5 67

Hero bets 85, villain raises to 200, 2 folds, hero...?

If hand started at 500 effective, getting it in on flop is fine against certain players, but what about this deep OOP? This game has a 1K cap, so these situations can pop up a lot.
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Old 09-01-2019, 02:24 PM   #2
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Re: 2/5 QQ with deep stacks facing aggression

I believe you want to range check this flop. Yeah, your overpairs kinda want to bet to protect against FDs, but they know you're fairly unlikely to have a set, so they can put you in a rough spot at this depth.

Having bet this flop and gotten a small raise out of this particular villain I believe I want to call and either CRAI on a brick turn or maybe lead? Regardless, if a diamond or 4 peels I'm done with the hand.
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Old 09-01-2019, 03:15 PM   #3
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Re: 2/5 QQ with deep stacks facing aggression

More pre, flop bet very questionable, flop sizing very bad, fold.
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Old 09-01-2019, 03:17 PM   #4
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Re: 2/5 QQ with deep stacks facing aggression

Pretty easy fold. People aren’t bluffing these boards 4-way with two limpers to act behind that have every possible two pair, straight and set combo. GII here would be so bad.

Also check flop.
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Old 09-01-2019, 03:50 PM   #5
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Re: 2/5 QQ with deep stacks facing aggression

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More pre, flop bet very questionable, flop sizing very bad, fold.
There we go
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Old 09-02-2019, 12:04 AM   #6
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Re: 2/5 QQ with deep stacks facing aggression

Easy fold. Going off a single data point (that she raised a draw earlier) is a poor indicator since the situation is likely completely different. It's very unlikely she's bluffing with 2 limpers behind her (who can have all the sets/straights here) and even if she is your equity with QQ is terrible.

This board should be a check. It's a terrible flop for our range.
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Old 09-02-2019, 12:16 AM   #7
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Re: 2/5 QQ with deep stacks facing aggression

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I believe you want to range check this flop.
As pfr you never want to "range check." Instead, sometimes you want to "most-of-your-range check." With a hand like 77 or 98hh (hands that are usually way ahead but need to get money in before scare cards come) or T9hh (hands that have a lot of equity but can benefit from folds), etc., you want to be betting this flop.
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Old 09-02-2019, 02:48 AM   #8
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As pfr you never want to "range check." Instead, sometimes you want to "most-of-your-range check." With a hand like 77 or 98hh (hands that are usually way ahead but need to get money in before scare cards come) or T9hh (hands that have a lot of equity but can benefit from folds), etc., you want to be betting this flop.
H should have zero combos of 77/109s/98s here, esp with that sizing pre from OOP SB
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Old 09-02-2019, 08:52 AM   #9
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Re: 2/5 QQ with deep stacks facing aggression

Im mostly looking to check this flop and I’m definitely not betting unless I can comfortably bet/fold to the villains involved in the hand.
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