Aria 2/5 this past weekend...where the lists were 70+ deep. Great action.

I'm sitting at a 2/5 game where I've been pretty card dead for three hours. I've got $600. A young Asian guy sits down and seem to know what he's doing, based on the orbit I see, but I really have no info on him beyond that.

HERO - $600
VILLAIN - Covers

HAND:

I raise QQ to $15 utg. Folded to Villain OTB and he calls without much thought. Both blinds fold.

Flop: ($37)

T77

I bet $25. Villain calls, again, without much thought.

Turn: ($87)

7

I bet $45.
Villain raises to $100 after pausing and thinking for about 10 seconds.
I call.

River: ($287)

4

I check. Villain bets $200 by holding up two fingers in the V formation and saying, "two hundred."

...

Explain to me what Villain can have that I beat, please....

Tx

Would a seemingly competent player raise the turn and then bet the river when I call his raise with Tx?

I agree...I kept my bets smallish on the flop and turn for the express purpose of keeping in Tx and under pairs. So now...I assume a call on the river is standard...

like pokerface said, I think your hand is totally underepped here and V might think he's making a value bet. AA and KK are unlikely part of his range cause young asian guy typically 3bets those hands. unless he has a 7 or TT then you should be good here.

Disagree that young asian guy "usually 3 bets AA/KK preflop here".

Shoving and calling are close.

never folding

villian has a ton of Tx and very few 7's. He may even have JJ

Overplayed Tx, JJ, and any 98 & lower pairs he decided to get bluffy with.

I disagree that V is taking this line for value a lot with Tx against a tight UTG raiser, sample size notwithstanding. He'd be value-owning himself more often than he'd be getting calls from worse, and that should be extremely obvious to a seemingly competent 2/5 player. I'm discounting Tx heavily.

We lose to ~5-18 combos, depending on V's pf range. (I assume TT/87h/76h at a minimum.) I'm probably calling in game simply because V is relatively unknown, and we only need a few spazz/bluff combos in there to make it +EV. Still expecting to lose pretty often.

^Sure, I understand that. My assumptions were: 1) OP hasn't done much since V sat down, and 2) V recognizes that a non-crazy opponent's UTG raising range is usually pretty narrow.

How is shoving a good play? We never will get called by worse and will only get called by better.

AP, call. Lots of Tx and busted straight draws will bet here now we've apparently given up. However I won't be surprised to see quads here.

Fold.

15 pre is nothing but a pot juicer. We really aren't folding out much, if any of his limping range. I would include SCs, PPs, ATs+, even some small connectors.

V takes a c/c/r/b line. If this is a bluff, well played sir. I don't think it is. I find a fold with the 5th nuts.

What???? Our hand is severely underrepped. No real strong reads on V so therefore, we should assume he sucks until proven otherwise, well because it's 2/5 live. I know OP said it seems like he knows what he's doin but that is a very broad statement For just one orbit, especially if nothing of importance has gone to showdown. V could be a pit degen who just plays occasionally and spewey and buys in full (since he has us covered within one orbit) OP didn't mention if he won a big hand or whatnot.If you're folding>>>>>calling (at worst) here then you're getting bluffed wayyyyy to often, and this is a superb board to not get bluffed with our premium hands.

* I'm not advocating overplaying this hand for stacks in the slight chance we are crushed, but just saying that folding on the river is absurd.

I don't think our hand in under-repped at all

XX, Tx, JJ, 99???
IMHO, You could have also bet/fold OTR yourself. Folding OTR is also fine I think.

Trivial spot. Some of the time V has JJ or Tx. I'd say JJ and Tx is a fold and KK+ is a call.

Bigger pre flop...$25+

As played, easy call.

Gotta call now. Not enough info to know his range.

Pls don't fold

A young Asian in Vegas, hmmm, I push... JK snap call as played.

Ok, thanks guys...I was being results oriented, apparently.

Results:

yowser, bad luck brother. Keep on grinding

Raise bigger pre....

Your hand was underrepped preflop so AT and JJ are very possible to play the hand the way he did. Without anymore info on V....believe I'm generally calling and getting coolered.

Fair points.

I'm not passing any judgment on V, and taking the seems like he knows what he's doing with a grain of salt. My key indicator is the line V took which is impossible to ignore and very suspicious/strong imo.

This is also a spectacular board to value own ourself and call off a big river bet. Fact of the matter is we are WA/WB so I disagree folding river is absurd.

Fwiw, check the results spoiler.

Edit: Based on your post, it seems to me like you are focusing on Level 1 poker (what do I have). Take a step back (or rather up) and put together a range for V that takes this line. At best it's TT/JJ for hands we beat.

an autographed nude of Jenna Jameson. you got that beat bro.

you also beat JJ and tie QQ

I'm not folding this, gotta call river.

Relatively unknown asian guy who seems to have some skills is rarely raising when he turns quads. JJ, Tx are far more likely.
So it goes.