Reads: I once 3-bet his LP raise with QQ, cbet 100 on a ragged flop and he tank folded, claimed to have JJ. He once limp/called in a big multiway pot, flop was K 5 5 rainbow, turn, he check/called against the pre flop raiser. Turn was a blank, he check/raised all in and forced a fold. He claimed to have KQ and I believe him, he really tank/shoved turn.

I open to $20 with 1010 in EP. Folds to villain in BB who calls.

$42 in the pot with ~$400 effective.

Flop: 865. He check/calls $30.

Turn: 865J. He checks, I bet $60 into $100, he makes it $160.

Hero? I know the standard move is to fold, but if I fold one pair here to a check/raise, that actually means I'm folding nearly 100% of my range here, allowing him to check/raise profitably with any two cards.

Also, thoughts on pot controlling turn by checking back?

I would have personally checked through on the turn. As played, I would fold.

I don't think there's much to recommend worrying about getting bluff-check-raised at low limit. I've spent more money than I would like to admit defending against it, but I have never actually had any one do that to me. Not that I recall. Check raise is just basically always exactly what it looks like, so much so that I'm getting to where it doesn't irritate me any more. I appreciate the heads up.

Checking turn is terrible against almost all villains. Youre giving them a free card. betting gives them a chance to call with worse or fold and surrender their equity. Bet fold $60 all day. Against players who can sometimes bluff raise turn, then check back. As a default, assuke a turn raise means they have two pairs+

I'm checking back turn against someone who has shown me they can check- raise/shove on favorable flops/turns and I'm bet/folding 2/3 pot on straightforward villains.

It seems like we're facing the former here IMO.

Not betting turn is a crime against nature. I wouldn't give too much credence to what he said about the K55 hand, people lie at the poker table. I think bet/folding is alright, if we had an actual read he was decent and could be c/ring 89, 78 here then maybe we can jam, but we don't. Just his words which don't mean anything. His actions imply he will wait for the turn to get value instead of blowing people off on the flop, and his sizing doesn't make me th ink he's trying to get you to go anywhere. Let it go

nobody checkraises the turn as a bluff at this level. don't worry about being exploited, he flopped a set.

Your read on the opponent seems to be that he is capable of making folds and he has check-raised his strong hands on the turn.

I think it's interesting to look at how TT fairs against hands that may call a turn bet like: pair+draws, combo draws, and some Jx. With just a few combos of Jx and assuming most of the worse one-pair hands have accompanying draws. TT is not in great shape. Around 50/50. We also again have an opponent who we think can lay down a hand like 8x (no draw). I think betting is probably the right choice, but, in my opinion it's close to a check-back especially if your opponent is capable of check-raising frequently in a spot like this.

I think your opponent likely raises the turn with sets/straights/Jx/big draws (straight+flush or pair+flush)/sometimes pair+straight. What gives me trouble when I play hands like this I have trouble thinking if my opponent would check-raise draws and what frequency they're doing so. It's always likely way less than I assume and I'm probably also giving my opponent too much "credit".

I fold to the raise. You're getting 3.2:1 on the turn and on the river you'll likely face $190 into $610 or be checking back and seeing a showdown. There are too few river cards that are good for your hand. You're really only happy to see non-spade 2's/3's and J or a T. Non-spade K's/Q's/5's/6's/8's are all possibly safe but also could be bad. And obviously 9's/4's/spades/Aces are probably terrible for you. Point I'm trying to make is that if you call turn the river isn't going to cooperate enough, even free-showdowns you're not a certainty to win. I don't think you can win this pot 1/4 times.

If we check back the turn, what is the play on certain rivers? I'd assume it's to fold on a lot of them if bet into. So whether it's betting or checking, this is a tough board for TT as the river is just going to be tough to play so often and we're never smashing any hands we're ahead of.

I would say bet/folding the turn is fine. We don't have enough evidence to support that he'd c/raise lots of draws. + The preflop call heads up out of the big blind makes his range verrrrry weighted to small pocket pairs or solid big cards imo. Given his call on the flop - I'd be ranging a standard player on TT/99/88/77/66/55. I still like a bet on a turn to charge his more likely holdings - 99 and 77 - from drawing cheap. But at the same time, ready to fold to a raise since a set makes so much sense here. Plus at lsll, I feel that most people would expect you to call the turn raise if you had an overpair - not try to blow you off of an overpair with a bluff.

perhaps I missed it, but how deep are we here?

Bet $25 on flop.
If he's a tight player, check turn. Fold to river bet.
If he's a station, bet turn. Fold to check raise.

As long as you folded to the C/R you played the hand perfectly. I have no idea why posters are suggesting a turn check. That seems horrible to me.

Because they know he check/raised and it's impossible for some to not be results oriented/biased even if they think they aren't.

I think it's villian dependent, if he's loose and can have a lot of pair+draw hands then you are missing a lot of value by checking. If he's tight like this guy appears to be, then betting only gets value from 77 and is giving value to every other hand that continues, so standard pot control.

Fold. What do you beat other than a bluff?

This

B/f and check are probably close against this guy, I might lean towards a check.

Also don't worry about spots where you would "fold 100% of your range" for the most part at 2/5, or really mdf at all. Not to mention, just bc you fold TT here doesn't mean you fold all 1p hands necessarily. TT should be pretty low down in your turn bet range, among 1p hands at least

bet fold is standard line against this guy, in this spot. he isn't exploiting you, he is playing his flopped set.

Results: Hero folds, villain doesn't show.

Our hands fares well against a range that donks at river, so we don't need to fold if bet into; I'd very rarely be folding rivers.

For betting the turn to be correct Villain needs to never be folding hands like 99, A8o or A6o. Does anyone really think those hands are calling multiple barrels?

This isn't a bad board for TT, but it definitely is a bad board for our range, which is one more reason not to be betting the turn.

Checking the turn is 100% standard in this spot.