Paying $50 to learn you have been routinely lighting money on fire in big pots seems like a very cheap lesson

Nothing wrong with paying 50

Against 99% of villains this is a fold, but against this guy when you've seen him bluff river for 2x pot/we are so underrepped/he could be value cutting himself with AJ/AQ it's a call. I wouldn't raise post at any point, let him barrel off.

This is AJ/AQ never. Its a polarized line/sizing and he has all the sets and we have some of them and the one we have is the worst hand to possibly have. I dont think I could get away from AJ here even though vs. gen pop thats a fold too bc you never get shown anything but the nuts here but vs. an asian under 30 you just might get shown something silly here so AJ would likely get stationed by me. 77 is a pretty quick fold not thinking much about it and certainly not concerned enough to pay $50 to get shown a bluff and let villain ream us twice in one hand without lube.

You dont pay people to see hands...certainly not 10 big blinds...you have the intelligence to construct ranges and know you made the right decision regardless of their specifc holding and the mental fortitude to not care about results. And the adaptability to pay attention to frequencies and adjust ranges as necessary as you build hand histories with villain.

As typical with most of these threads not a single person posted range assumptions from equilab or propokertools or any of those easily usable tools and showed that this is a very clear fold even with some bluffs added in.

I will admit KQo is quite wide. Though people do make the false assumption that bc we get shown KQo he's bluffing super wide here which may still not be true. His 3 barrels arent as bad as his pre 3b and sizing which are quite bad.

Btw, its a clear overlimp pre.

Thank you for addressing this. I was really questioning whether raising or calling preflop would be more +EV. I'm surprised that no one else even mentioned preflop at all.

Looking back on it, I think I agree that limping preflop would've been better. It's very difficult to play 3+way flops with 77. I often just have to set mine when there are more than 2 players to the flop and I have a mid pocket pair like 77-TT, so I'm starting to think that overlimping is better. In addition to that, the whale can easily call 3 pot sized bets with top pair the times when I flop a set, so I can still build up a nice pot even in a limped pot imo. I think that I picked the wrong hand to isolate with, as this hand plays well in high SPR multiway pots, rather than 3way low SPR pots.

Online poker just became illegal in Australia Stars and 888 have both dropped out of the market. It all happened because we have this monopoly known as Crown Casino, which is about as powerful as the NRA in America, and they can basically bribe the government into getting whatever they want. They didn't like the idea of having to compete against online gambling platforms, so they lobbied to make all online gambling illegal, without allowing any exceptions at all. It's completely ****ed. I'm trying to work out a way for me to get a VPN + European bank account so that I can continue to play on Stars lol.

Unfortunately, things aren't going that great for me live. Everytime I build up a bankroll playing a mix of 1/3NL and 2/5NL, I manage to lose it on something stupid. Either I go on a downswing and start playing 10/20NL and 5/5PLO to chase my losses, or I have to withdraw 1.5k for life expenses (overseas holiday, new phone, etc.) or I lend a few thousand dollars out to a friend and don't get paid back... these 3 reasons are why I'm broke.

People don't believe me when I tell them that I'm several thousand dollars up at both 1/3NL and 2/5NL over my lifetime... I have nothing to show for any of that

How is poker going for you?

Limping pre is too weak. I'd raise more than 40 tho.

Not overlimping 77 this deep.

I also play live at crown........................
As played:
River is a CALL....range tools PFFFT it is live poker with no hud and all brain,
To overship that river with JJ AA QQ just isnt going to happen enough of the time....i read all of page 1 comments and just came to the conclusion that if villain is to overship in this spot and 3bet pre, small size cbet flop (which i think he has plans to maneuver the pot on 3rd and 4th st) then he can def have bluffs/nuts on river and i still think he can have AQ(AQ maybe 20%).....so then the Q remains, is he trying to value bet us or bluff us...sometimes he might have AQ and put us on AJ and go for max value...sometimes he has 77 and puts us on 2 pair so goes for max value...he never puts us on KT and then he can also rule out all sets as hero doesn't raise flop or turn when flush draw comes in...
typically most players playing live fast poker format will not have enough time to breakdown a specific range of hands and will just lump into categories, and this is why its a SNAP CALL >
Underrepped set on flush turn
Players arent good enough to overship sets on a non nut board like this, but are bad enough to overship backdoor top2pair> as AJ is in heros range ALOT.
Players arent good enough to show up here consistantly with KTs and overjam

I think there are a few takeaways from this... Given the mixed bag of opinions on how the hand played out, and that not too many people seemed super confident with their analysis, the decision is probably close. The real issue for me is playing so deep with a dangerous player you didn't feel completely comfortable with. Drilling a set, and still feeling uncomfortable can't be an optimal way to play. Then paying $50 to see their hand really puts up a red flag that you're just not in the right frame of mind to be playing.

In my opinion, winning poker is more about having reasonably found fundamental strategies, along with being very disciplined.

-- I am a mediocre player, so take these opinions with a grain of salt. The hand was really thought provoking, so thanks for sharing.