Just moved down to Florida & been playing in the local poker room. 2/5 is the biggest game they run at this poker room, an in general there's a group of about 20-30 of the same guys who play this game on a daily basis. Very friendly environment and most of the guys are friends there. Hero has come into the game as the new young kid and has been playing there a few weeks with mostly winning sessions. Early in the session and everyone is sitting with roughly the same stack between 60-100 BB's. I'm dealt KK in MP.

After 2 limps in EP, I make it 25 to go, and it is folded around to the 2 limpers who both call. A little background on both of these players. V1 is someone I've never played with, but would soon realize the number one move in his arsenal is to limp-call PF and lead out on most flops OOP. V2 is someone the hero has history with from just a few days ago, as the Hero stacked him for a 200BB pot after turning top set on the V2's flopped set. He is a loose passive player who likes to splash around in a lot of pots, but rarely shows any aggression. I digress back to the hand. Flop comes Q 8 J This is obviously not the greatest flop, but V1 donks out for 45 into pot of 80. V2 calls, and I want to at least isolate V1 on this super textured board, so I make it 165 to go (started the hand w/ 100 BB's). V1 thinks for a bit and finally calls (with only another 125 behind), as does V2 (also started hand w/ 100 BB's. At this point I don't feel great about my hand, but am really only worried about V1 as I think V2 has a ton of draws in has range. the turn comes 7& V1 jams his remaining 125 into the pot. V2 calls, & I think that I either have to jammy remaining 300 in or fold. I decide to jam because I think I am still ahead of a lot of V2's range, and he calls off. the river is an innocent looking 4, and I lose the hand to V2's 7 4:diamond. V1 said after the hand he had K 10 . Thoughts on this debacle of a hand, and how I played it. Do I just flat the turn and keep my remaining 175 behind or os jamming better here. Anything I could have done differently on flop like bet sizing of my raise.

Thanks

Don't post results.

Pre-flop, you should start experimenting with how big you can bet your premiums and still get a caller, especially in posts where there have been a couple of limpers. If someone is limp-calling your raise with 74s, I suspect you could raise to $40 and still get callers, and will make your hands much more straightforward to play post-flop.

Think your decision is really made on the flop. Once you raise the flop you're committing yourself to the hand, so raise flop/shove turn is a pretty good line. Alternatively, you could just call flop which would allow you to fold to a big turn bet. Issue with raising flop is that you're in a 3-way pot with a 5:1 SPR, so you're a bit deep to be delighted stacking off with one pair. However, given your reads of V1 as someone who likes to donk most flops and that V2 is splashy, I think you have to go with it and played it fine post-flop.

I understand what you're saying. Does that mean I need to increase my iso raise sizing in general in order to merge my ranges? This thinking is probably a little above what's going through the mind of these players although there are a few competent players in this game.

Well played.

It's live 2/5, and people show up with the most random ****. That's why the game is profitable to play. The game that you just described sounds really good. My advice is to keep playing in it. Don't tell the donks how bad they are playing, and print the moneyz.

You must have an online background. I think that's overthinking it. Focus on identifying the tendencies and mistakes of your Vs and exploiting them. If they call too much, raise more and bigger w value hands.

Haha, yea definitely overthinking. I like the idea of experimenting w/ PF raise sizing though and see what size fish are willing to limp/call PF. Thanks for the advice guys.

$25 is OK but at the low end for raising over 2 limpers from MP. You will need to learn from experience what sizes does isolate at these games.

The flop raise wasn't big enough. The min raise won't get any draws out and that is really what your worried about. Except for QX villains are either drawing or already beating you. Considering stack sizes you should probably be folding or shoving on the flop.