This is my first ever PAHWM so bear with me if I break convention.

This hand occurred on Saturday night at Foxwoods. UTG player in the hand is a young Turkish kid who had been playing relatively quietly and passively after buying in for $200 an hour or so earlier. He's limp/folded a decent amount and hasn't opened the pot once. However on the hand just before this one, he limp-jammed his $200 stack with AQo and doubled up against JJ, so his stack is now roughly $425.

Other players in the hand are standard fit-or-fold live players who limp-fold way too frequently preflop.

Hero is a late-20s white guy with a solid, aggressive image and sitting on about $1200. I haven't played too many hands since the Turkish kid sat down, however, and I probably haven't shown down anything in the past few hours.

***PREFLOP***

UTG limps, and 3 other players limp from MP/LP.

Hero (OTB) has 9T

Hero ...

Call or blast like $50. Nothing in between.

I limp behind here. Love to play T9s multi way with position, it's not a hand I want to isolate with.

Assuming good image + everyone limp/folding too much, opening to $40 seems good. I'll overlimp here sometimes, more often with short stacks who don't fold much.

Interested to see how this one works out, because I feel like I have been losing every pot I open light after multiple limpers these days.

Agree with open to ~$45 or limp. I prefer opening, I just have been having bad results doing so recently - Table dynamic sounds like a good one to open though.

Based on table descript, sounds like isolating to HU or two opponents is achievable. Raise to $35-40, keep TAG image, narrow your perceived range, isolate to create some fold equity vs. small-mid pps on A/K-high flops.

For those advocating a raise to $40-$50, what does our raising range look like? Do we have a limping range?

Raising range: 88+/ATs+/A5s,A4s

Limping range: if blinds are passive, pretty much most playable hands from the BTN. I'd go as low as 64s/T7s, etc.

IO are high and you can evaluate/pot control from BTN with respect to RIO.

I don't think I'm a big fan of this strategy, specifically with regards to limping hands like 64s and T7s. The value of those hands plummets in multi-way pots because of the RIO, and while position helps, it doesn't make much sense to limp with these hands only to fold them when you actually nail the board. I'd rather raise them in some games and fold in others.

When 4 other people limp, there is nothing to isolate.

Next to a suited A you have the nut over limp hand / situation.

If SPR were deeper you could do more stuff.

With the added knowledge UTG has l/rr already, this is a fist pump flick $5 in and continue watching TV hand.

They have value in multi-way pots, you just need to be observant and able to getaway from second best hands if the situation calls for it. If you are just going to shovel 200bbs in anytime you flop a flush or hit two pair/trips then yeah, maybe it is best not to get involved.

In this particular spot, I'm limping in, especially after the observation that UTG has the tendency to limp raise strong hands.

I'm limping behind.

in a FW game you describe (which is completly standard) id make it 40-45...you will take it down 90% of the time

Understood. However, there are times u can see a K64r flop cheaply, fire a PSB when it is checked to u, and scoop most of the time vs. fit or folders, regardless of your hand.

Really depends on how well u feel your post flop skills are vs. the opponents.

I'm going to add a bit more clarification about my description of the UTG Villain. While I did say that he limp/jammed on the previous hand, I also noted that he had been limp/folding quite a bit as well. And he had also done a fair bit of limp/calling and folding on the flop. His limp/jam with AQo was also out of a bit of frustration -- he said after the hand that he was "2 for 17" hitting an Ace on the flop when his hand held an Ace, and decided he was better off seeing all 5 cards here rather than folding on the flop.

So FWIW, I didn't think Villiain's recent limp/raise was an indication that he was likely to do it again, especially now that he has a much more playable stack.

Will post preflop results and next decision in a couple hours when I get back from the gym.

Alright so I decided to raise to $40 here, which I'm doing almost every time with 9cTc in a typical Foxwoods 2/5 game. In fact I'm probably raising roughly 20% of hands in this spot, and limping with small pairs and AXss hands below A9s.

I expect to steal the blinds a fair amount and/or have significant fold equity on the flop when I do isolate one limper, thanks to my image. And of course this hand can flop huge in a number of ways.

***HAND***

Hero raises $40 OTB. UTG calls and the 3 other limpers fold.

Pot: $97 (after rake)
Flop: J54

Villain ($385 behind) checks
Hero ......

Bet $40

He's passive and nitty so he's probably fairly inelastic, this flop misses a lot of his hands, and if you bet then you can bet again on Q+ cards on the turn, plus you have a 3 straight and 3 flush so you can turn a bunch of equity.

^ +1

Given our total lack of equity and the likelihood that that board missed V, I'm ok with a plan to lead flop here. We don't have to bet crazy either. Something like $50

It sounds like this v is going to play their hand pretty face up based on your read, so you should assume he probably has something if he calls

40 is ok. I prefer 50. Definite bet/fold on the flop though, for all the reasons Ranma stated. What's turn?

I overlimp as described, raising T-high into multiple players who will call with hands that dominate us seems bad to me, especially since our hand plays great multiway.

As played, villain sounds fit-or-fold and decidedly non-tricky. Therefore I go with the obvious play, fire once and then give up unless we improve. $50 -> $60 sounds good.

I'm folding to a raise and I have almost no turn betting range if he calls flop and checks turn, I guess maybe 8. If turn checks through and he checks river, I'm only betting if we have > 1 pair.

Hand seems pretty straight forward.

Without knowing the effective stacks you can throw me in the limp pre camp. We often get to see a free turn on a flop like this which is great for our hand, and depending on the player/stack I'll float a $15 bet.

As played c-bet seems fine and I like $40-45.

How do people feel about betting small here, like $30? This flop is hard to float and with our specific hand we intend to double barrel frequently, so it's actually good if he is encouraged to float the flop just to fold the turn. A small sizing is unlikely to induce. We retain more equity when called when we bet small.

Based on the V descript, he probably is not floating. If he calls Hero c-bet, I don't think we can continue on the turn. I'd go $50 and hope hands like 77/66 fold.

What do you mean by the bolded? Our equity is well behind.

Bet between 50 and 70.

If he raises, fold.

If turn is a 10 or 9, check behind and try to get to showdown.

If turn is a club or gives you an open ended straight draw, bet ~100 on the turn.

If turn gives you just a gutshot straight draw, check. If stacks were deeper, I'd probably bluff a turned inside straight draw. I'd also bet slightly larger than 100.