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2/5 OTT OtB vs. TAG and laggy V 2/5 OTT OtB vs. TAG and laggy V

12-30-2018 , 10:00 PM
2/5 Saturday $500 cap
Hero: $500, MaWG, table changed over to this table about 3 hands ago but I recognize a few faces.

V1: $500, 40yo white guy, normally plays all the tournies in the room and from what I’ve heard, he is respectable, prob small winner. Somehow, over the last 5+ years I haven’t played with him (maybe because he always plays tournies). When I first sat down from the table change, he only had $200 in front. In the few hands I’ve been here, he topped off. My initial read is he is just ABC TAG.

V2: covers, MAAG, laggy, not total fish but def here with more of the gambooool mindset. I just remember this from previous sessions...no specific hands that I remember

OTTH
V1 opens $20 MP1, folds to V2 who calls in CO, hero calls OTB with AJ
Blinds fold

Flop ($67): AK7x
V1 leads $$25, V2 calls. Hero calls with all the backdoor draws and relatively OK flop, with position on both Vs.

Turn ($143): AK7x7

Checks to hero...?
Seems like the TAG is giving up here, hard to put the Asian on a 7.

Just bet like $90 and take it down? Or check and bet river with smallish sizing and hope a K calls?
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12-30-2018 , 10:11 PM
I 3! This pre on the button sometimes but calling is okay as well(more inclined to 3! AJ offsuit) but squeezing is nice IP with a good hand.

I bet/ fold like 60 here to try and get heroed by a K.

Check is okay too except I would rather do it heads up and we have a very easy call if he bets like half pot or under.

Idk what is more EV tho
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12-30-2018 , 10:34 PM
I see merits both for betting turn and checking turn/betting river. It's going to be hard to get value from a King, so I would lean towards the second option.

If V1 is opening a standard MP range preflop, then I would 3bet AJs on the BTN (along with KQs, AQ+,99+).

Last edited by aisrael01; 12-30-2018 at 10:42 PM.
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12-30-2018 , 11:47 PM
Id squeeze pre.

Ott probably just betting, there are a number of bad rivers and there’s value to be had.
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12-31-2018 , 05:46 AM
Bet turn, but not large. Just enough to get a bit of money in while you're most likely ahead and charge various hands. Probably around $50.

Playing PF/f the same way. AJs is not worth 3-betting against a random ABC TAG.

I suspect V1 has something like KQs, while V2 could have QdTd. Clear value-bet to me.

I check back most rivers.
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12-31-2018 , 06:53 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by krilleater
Bet turn, but not large. Just enough to get a bit of money in while you're most likely ahead and charge various hands. Probably around $50.

Playing PF/f the same way. AJs is not worth 3-betting against a random ABC TAG.

I suspect V1 has something like KQs, while V2 could have QdTd. Clear value-bet to me.

I check back most rivers.
The squeeze puts on a ton of pressure on the ABC TAG, if we make it $90-$100 he cant really call w/ 66-99/KQs/KJs, even 1010 is tough for him. He might even fold hands as strong as AJs/AQo.

I agree if there were no cold callers id just flat but here seems like a good squeeze spot
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12-31-2018 , 07:33 AM
squeeze pre makes more money and you can profitably squeeze at least TT+,ATs+,KQs, AKo in these positions. I would only flat mid pairs 99-77 and some better speculative hands if blinds are loose and fishy

c/ turn and bet river small to get thin value is higher ev
your opps are less likely to call w/ a marginal hand due to the threat of having to face an additional bet otr
you also avoid having to b/f to slowplays and allow your opps to sometimes bet their whiffs otr.
look to fold if v1 bomb leads the river after the turn got x through
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12-31-2018 , 08:50 AM
$85 pre to pickup the extra dead $. You have a top hand and the BTN where you can control action if called.

As played, smaller on turn to keep KX hands in … $55 or so.
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12-31-2018 , 12:51 PM
Thinking back, I believe I prefer a check on the turn with a small bet OTR around 60-75$ to get a call from any K.

But, hero bets $75 on the turn. TAG villain folds. Asian villian minraises to $150.

Hero?!

I feel like a 7 shouldn’t really be in his flop calling range since there are no backdoors...then again, he is most likely calling with any connection on the flop.

Maybe K♦️X♦️? Not really sure he would min-raise my turn bet as he likely knows he is behind and can see the river for one bet, especially with V being OOP.

I was just confused...so hero does what?
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