2/5 at oceans, hero effective $1200, I open UTG1 7d7c to $20. Get 3 callers (Cutoff, Button, BB). Each relatively similar stack as me. Cutoff is LAG, Button seems solid thus far. (I've been playing for 30 mins, so no history with them)

Flop 9c7s3c, bb checks I bet $40, cutoff and button calls, BB folds.

turn 9s.

I need advice on best lines to take here. Do I check 100% of the time, do I bet 100% of the time? If bet do I bet large, or small. Also If I bet, I may get one caller? don't wanna scare away anyone.

Do I check? If I check, I know for sure 1 of the two will bet. If I had AA or KK here, I would probably check this turn also (is that bad?).

I ended up checking, $200 in pot. cutoff checks, Button bets $125. I'm never raising here, so I called the $125, and cutoff called the $125. Now $575 in the pot. River complete brick,2h. As played what do i do?? Just check? or lead big to confuse them? I have a hammer lock on the hand. I assumed if I check, the button HAS to take another stab here with missed flush. I was wrong, i checked, and they both checked. Disaster? or did I play it okay to give my self the best chance to win alot of dollars, but didnt work out?

C/r turn. As played, check again

Any 9 v has is betting river, and maybe a missed backdoor or frontdoor flush draw.

If you bet river, a 9 is most likely just calling at 2/5, missed flush draws are folding.

Check raising river seems max value for sure.

It's rarely wrong to fastplay your big value hands at these stakes. I think we can size up OTF. What's calling $40 that folds to $60+? I'd keep bombing turn and river myself. don't think this turn is 100% bet or fold, you can do both. Your big pairs do want to check back, respecting the fact that the overcallers have way more nines than us. I could see red TT and JJ being bet more since they need the protection. We also have some FD's that we could bluff with, but overall we're not betting frequently, probably no more than 2/3 pot in most cases. Keep in mind though, the reason there's so much money in live poker is that people don't play well so we exploit. One way to do that is to keep betting our specific hand for as large as we can get away with. I think FD's peel $140ish here easily if not more. Hopefully a 9 will raise too & we can get them stacks in.

As played, xr turn sounds good. A nine's not going anywhere, and if you make it small, you're pricing in FD's. Then just gii OTR.

I think x/r turn is better line than call turn/check river. First, any 9x is likely to call the raise and call any river bet. So we maximize versus 9x. Second, any value hand worse than 9x is probably not going to bet river — a value hand worse than 9x might call our turn raise, though… hard to say. Third, any flush draw will call the turn check raise if we make it small enough, but a flush draw is unlikely to continue to bluff river.

So by x/r turn we get an extra street of value against flush draws and we also maximize against 9x.

As played, just check river to check/raise. A 9 is always going to bet river, so we maximize against that part of their range. I don’t think leading makes sense. We’d be specifically targeting JJ, and lead river is a pretty strange and underbluffed line. Not sure if worse than JJ would call a bet. Anyway there’s probably more 9x in range than JJ, so best to optimize versus that target.

Depending on your image and opponents either lead turn or check/raise turn is usually best when your flop bet gets 2 calls. If you are very sure that one of the two will bet if you check then check/raise is fine. With 2 opponents the chance one of them has a 9 goes up and the chance anything else will put in a lot of money goes down. Heads up you can make a better case for check/call turn because there is a wider range of low value hands in play.

As played you have to check river. A big lead will mostly just convince them you have a 9 that you slow played on the turn and you will only get called by hands expecting a chop. Any 9 will almost always bet if you check so your not really costing yourself anything. The idea that button will take another stab with missed draws is not strong on the paired board or in multiway pots. Button is likely to expect that somebody has a hand that will call.

Flop should be slightly larger on a somewhat wet board multiway. Even just $50/$55 helps to inflate the pot on later streets.

ckc turn ck riv SMOKEEEEEEE

Checking turn is fine betting is fine too but you absolutely have to raise the turn or lead the river. Giving them a chance to not have to put in 3 streets is a disaster imo.

If it's a tough line up then yes your line is good but these people don't know you and you don't know them. Screw balance with a monster that doesn't block tons of obvious calls.

In all reality we aren't going to be balanced with a river check raise anyway. What are your bluffs? Point is we're going to be unbalanced at some point in this hand so we might as well give ourselves the chance to stack someone.

I also totally disagree that any 9 is betting river. I would go as far as to say that most players at this level aren't betting A9 with the Ac after two people just called a $125 turn bet.

I actually like the check/call turn then lead river for 3/4 pot line as it looks a lot like you missed and are trying to steal the pot with the ultimate fish line. Check raise turn is going to make you more money and bet/bet/jam is the best line overall

i disagree

I highly disagree that 'any 9 is betting river'. We must not play at the same tables. If someone has a T9, J9 type hand they may very well check after you flatted the turn.

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