V1: young white guy - talked to him briefly, works a full time job during the week, plays poker a couple times a week. V1 likes to gambool, has some decent skills, but overall is just too loose imho. Appears not to understand bet sizing and SPR theory.

V2: mid 30's white guy - never played with him before. Has a winning image - haven't seen him get out of line this session.

Hero: mid 30's white guy - well known in this cardroom as a semi-pro, not that these particular V's would know that. Been sitting at this table for approx 2 hours.

Hero(btn)($1050): A3
V1(sb)($1300): ? ?
V2(mp)($1500): ? ?

PRE: limped 4 ways to Hero, who makes it $35, both V's call.

pot~$115
FLOP: 862

V1 bets $40. V2 raises to $120. V1 starts to call out of turn, I let him know I still have cards. Hero just calls, V1 calls behind.

pot~$475
TURN: 6

V1 bets $200. V2 gets visibly pissed and throws his cards into the muck after approx 10 sec.

Hero?

Thoughts pre, flop, and turn are much appreciated. Thanks guys

easy fold. you are getting over 3:1 on the call but you need better odds than that to call. and that's assuming you aren't already drawing dead to a boat which it looks like you may be. fold all day long.

I don't play a ton live. But I think generally I just limp along there pre with a3ss. You're almost never going to end up taking it down pre and very rarely isoing in that spot live I feel.

Overlimping here is much better if there aren't specific players you're trying to iso. Players to iso here are those who will limp/call with worse and/or play fit/fold post flop.

With these stacks we are OK being aggressive on the button.

We like the flop.

We probably have nine outs after the turn, IF we are lucky.

Surely with this kind of action we can do better, in a better spot, than call a draw that is at best 9 outs once while only getting 675 to 200?

Raising the button is OK, but limping along is probably better in this spot.

I am tempted to raise the flop, but the call is good when you know it keeps V1 in the hand.

Since the board paired, folding is probably best. You probably aren't getting any more money if the flush comes -- and you could be way behind already.

I overlimp preflop, and I think I'm folding flop with the action going bet-raise (large) in front of me, though it's probably not terrible to call when V1 has telegraphed he's not going to re-raise.

As played turn is an easy fold on a paired board as others have pointed out.

What raise size are you making it if you look down at AA/KK/QQ/AK etc here?

To be honest I like limping along in this spot with the draw to the nut flush, keep those J9 suited or whatever in and get paid off when you over flush someone.

As played, I would have done the same thing as you however I would fold turn given that is probably one of the worst cards in the deck for us.

V seems quite strong. Even if we have Ace outs, we have 12 outs...3:1 and we are laid about 3:1. Since any overpair would play this way, specifically 99-JJ feels relevant, we should be able to call and barely be good ev wise. You might want to be conservative and at minimum discount your Ace outs.

I either call or shove the turn. Folding seems bad imo

V1 is about never boated w/his line. small chance he has trips either

This. Given villain description, stack depth, board, and action, I can't see villain ever flatting a set after a raise and a flat.

I think calling is the worst option by far. Do you think he's going to put any more money in if the flush comes or an A hits UNLESS he can beat it? I fold, because I might have 12 outs at best, but next best is raising for the FE if you really think he is as weak as one pair.