Obv nobody is ever folding here

I think you have to be prepared to go with this hand. Raise flop.

Is that so

If we have 40% equity the Villain has 60%. That means for every 100 dollars we put in the pot we lose 20 dollars. If we put our remaining 500 dollars in the pot, on average, we'll be losing 100 dollars.

We put 100 dollars in the pot and the Villain puts in 100. 40% of that 200 is 80. Every 100 dollars gets translated into 80 dollars of EV.

True I understand the math. But that's why I stated that the 40% equity that we have is without any of his flush draws and combo draws. Being slightly conservative.

I think a raise here is pretty bad. What are you folding out that beats you or what calls that you beat? With position, I'd flat because he's still got another 100bbs behind, there's a loose player even deeper still in the hand who you could potentially over flush and stack. If it goes h/u to the turn with the HJ, there's a lot of maneuverability on this board vs his range plus a bunch of nut equity. I think folding is better than raising here because as others have said, it's likely 2pr. Pocket pairs 88-1010 should be raised from the HJ when folded to, so I'd discount sets. Either way, if you raise you're turning your hand into a bluff and I don't see the point in this spot.

i think this is usually a flat to 1) keep BB in and 2) avoid getting shoved on by the top of his range.

i could change my mind if we had a strong read on how villain is likely to play the turn. like, if a small raise wins us a free river card nearly always, if villain can bet-call with a big part of his range on the flop instead of shove, and if BB is telegraphing a fold, maybe. but even then it's a lot of if's and i don't love it.

we might get a free river anyway (or a bluffing opportunity) if a scare card falls and villain checks. so re-opening the action and paying extra for it is less attractive.

I don't see any of the three options being significantly better than the rest. Calling would probably be my choice but you are going to fold a lot of turns.

Some good thoughts on here. I appreciate the feedback guys. Thanks!

Calling and seeing what he does on the turn also defines villain's range for $150 cheaper.

In a similar situation on a £1-£2 cash game I had apx £400 and villain had me covered slightly. I'm the LAG the villain is a decent solid player. Several limpers to me in the big blind. I raise to £20 with KdQd all fold to villain on the button who flats. Flop comes KhQcJc. I put a pot sizes bet out £48. Villain raises to £130. What should I do?? Because I wasn't feeling comfortable here. I know this is slightly different because the cards are higher vs one opponent I'm the pre flop raiser etc. But should I fold making a raise with top pair and NFD (plus straight draw) a good bet. Should I call what am I beating??
The point I make is surely better hands could struggle to make the call especially lesser two pair and should they find the call they are not in bad shape.
I favour the raise in the OP hand.

Thanks again for the thoughts on how to play a hand like this. To satisfy anyone's curiosity I raised Seat 7's $75 Flop bet to $200. Both players called.

I raised with the following thoughts:

1. I may not get paid off on another bet if I flat his $75 and then the heart comes.
2. My raise might induce Seat 7 to check the Turn allowing me to get a free River card.
3. I was likely ahead of the BB's range already and wanted to charge him a higher price to chase whatever draw he might be on if for any reason I happened to be ahead of Seat 7 or could outplay him on later streets.

Fortunately though with $675 in the pot I caught the absolute perfect card on the Turn with the Jack of Hearts, and the BB insta jammed his remaining $600+. It was obvious seat 7 hated the Turn card and folded. BB showed Q4hh.

Not trying to be results oriented but anyone have any feedback on my reasoning above that wasn't already covered?

I think you got lucky that BB came along with his dominated draw after your flop raise and I think you are also lucky that the old man was probably at the bottom of his range with 2 pair and didn't 3bet you on the flop.

Def think its better to flat flop. Tight older player donking flop for pot is 2pr+ for me, and assuming that he raises most (if not all) sets when folded to in lp and that he could l/c with QJo, a lot of straights in his range that are gonna gii on the flop after you raise.

If we flat though we are not closing the action. Are we planning on calling with further aggression or folding losing money already invested and losing our opportunity to see turn and river?? Also what do we do when a blank hits the turn because I guess a lot of times people will try and make us pay again to hit the river so our call on the flop only pays for the turn which several of them we will not like.

yeah, if you know for a fact that your 200 will get called two ways, including by BB"s dominated draw, and that they will always check turn to you unless you are winning, then yeah, it's a good play. but you don't know that and it's not usually the case, so i still like a check better.

worked out ok though!