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/ NL: TPNK in BB 5-way limped pot / NL: TPNK in BB 5-way limped pot

02-04-2014 , 07:25 AM
$500 eff, I have T4o in BB and check it and we see flop 5-ways in a limped pot. My image: tight.

Flop: T62r Pot ~ $25

SB checks. You and why? Please also provide a plan for future streets.
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02-04-2014 , 07:34 AM
What are the tendencies of the 3 players left to act?

Are they the type to lead out with TP type hands when checked to? If so, I like a c/f on the flop, and leading the turn if it's checked through. Assuming this is the same loose-passive table described in your other thread, whilst a bet would definitely get called by worse, there is a good chance that a flop bet will result in us bloating a pot OOP with a relatively weak hand.

If the turn is an overcard, I'm c/f considering there are 8 cards our there which can make a topper-pair. If the turn is anything else I'm probably leading for about pot, expecting to get called by any 6, and any hand which picked up a pair OTT. Obviously it's a b/f OTT, because there is a good chance that at this sort of table a set is often checking the flop, and gutshots might have gotten there OTT, which will likely announce themselves if the board no-longer remains rainbow since these players are often terrified of the flush.
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02-04-2014 , 09:35 AM
In this spot, there's really not a whole lot of value from my perspective. Probably check this flop, maybe bet a turn and try to get to showdown with a hand with small SDV
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02-04-2014 , 09:42 AM
Check, with a plan of mostly just check/folding. If a player in LP makes a bet I consider calling flop and giving up if they continue, but that depends heavily on villain. If it does check around, I would lead any turn that isn't an over card. If that gets called, I'm going to be careful on river but I may bet depending on run out and who the villain is. If an overcard hits turn I just check/fold, with this many villains it almost has to hit somebody.

This is based in part on this being a multiway limped pot and dry board, I don't expect as many stabs with total air here. The biggest factor though is that we are multiway and way OOP. This is a situation where we can easily lose money to a better hand but it's hard to make money from a worse one.
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02-04-2014 , 09:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FourDeuce
In this spot, there's really not a whole lot of value from my perspective. Probably check this flop, maybe bet a turn and try to get to showdown with a hand with small SDV
Just so.

Where is the profit in this hand? You can't even get too excited if a 4 or T pops off. A free or very cheap showdown is your best hope.
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02-04-2014 , 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by InTheDark
Just so.

Where is the profit in this hand? You can't even get too excited if a 4 or T pops off. A free or very cheap showdown is your best hope.
Very minimal if any profit in this hand. I agree you can't get too excited about hitting two pair. Get to showdown is all you can really hope for.
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02-04-2014 , 11:39 AM
check, probably c/c unless hes a nit or scared money or both

or if it gores bet, call, call then fold
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02-04-2014 , 05:01 PM
x/c. Keep pot small
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02-04-2014 , 05:09 PM
bet 15$, get called in two spots. when 4 hits turn, crai for creative value bluff purposes.
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02-04-2014 , 05:12 PM
C/F unless the last player to act bets, then I might call. Can't give a better answer w/o table dynamics.

There are no draws present, you have NK, and are oop.
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02-04-2014 , 06:07 PM
Grunch:

Check/fold the flop.

I might check/call the turn depending on who bets. If it's an aggressive V form LP I'll like call as they can bet worse than TP once the flop checks around, but in general I'm check/folding the turn also against a reasonable bet from any type of passive player.

If somehow I get to the river, I'm putting in a bet of 1/3 - 1/4 the pot for value.
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02-06-2014 , 09:23 AM
Would anything change in your plans if you had K7o and the flop was K62r ?
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02-06-2014 , 09:42 AM
Not as much. I might be slightly more inclined to play on the turn when the flop checked around, and there's a bit more likelihood that my kicker can play, so facing weakness I'll be inclined to value bet a bit on the turn/river, but it's still a pretty bad spot overall.
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