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06-10-2014 , 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by OSUTexan
If he's a competent villain, why would he never show up with a J here?? If he's putting hero on QQ+, I believe this is a hard range for any type of player to get away from in this spot and not shove. I think every non-thinking player instantly is checking this flop with a J and going for a check raise...not saying right or wrong...just all depends on table dynamics but think there is a far larger majority of non-thinking players that would check in 1st position if he had a J rather than bet.
I suspect the competent player would be betting a Jack here on the flop to induce the jam of QQ+ but a larger 3B PF might get this hand out of there. AJo or KJs is what I suspect the Villain leading to have...
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06-10-2014 , 01:34 PM
I would tank and finally begrudgingly call.

Then shove any lower non spade on the turn. I would fold to a spade turn and big bet.'

I want him to make the mistake of putting most of his stack in the pot when his equity has shrunk.
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06-10-2014 , 11:38 PM
I like a jam here. I think it would be a huge mistake to commit half your stack and then have to fold on a bad turn. With SPR this low you can just gii against both opponents and let the chips fall as they may.

Given description of V2 as a solid reg it's tough to put many JX hands in his 3b calling range oop. Also I would expect a solid reg to be capable of leading out more than just his few JX hands here so that + SPR = ship it in
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06-11-2014 , 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by iraisetoomuch
You want to eliminate AJ? A hand that has almost no IO odds against us?
That is ~25% to win by the river?
That we have position on?
That will stack off 100% off the time on a J high board?
That seems poor.
No basically saying that the mistake OP made was not 3b enough preflop.
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06-12-2014 , 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by AintNoLimit
I would tank and finally begrudgingly call.

Then shove any lower non spade on the turn. I would fold to a spade turn and big bet.'

I want him to make the mistake of putting most of his stack in the pot when his equity has shrunk.
More or less this.

I'm never shipping the flop because
#1) I fold out a ton of lessor hands I beat, (garbage underpairs that put me on AK)
#2) I would rather peel off a non-spade turn and force the FD to get his money in when 1/2 his equity has been cut out from under him
#3) By merely calling the flop lead out, I allow V to make more mistakes on the turn
#4) BY calling the flop bet when in position we allow ourselves to gather more info about both villains and use our POSITION to exploit both

In general, whenever I have a really strong hand and I'm in position and a player blasts the pot in front of me on the flop, I prefer to just call. Because of position, Villain will cut his own throat for me, so I can just sit back and let him do the work. This keeps his range wide and allows him to continue his aggression with a ton of lessor hands.
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