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Originally Posted by any2facedown
^^^^ what IS optimal then???! what the **** happened to never going broke in a limped pot?
^^^^ this
bet/call is terrible.
1. you could already be behind, drawing to 4 outs possibly less.
2. if you're not behind, 5/6/T/J will leave you drawing to 4 outs on the turn.
esp. when you lead pot size on the flop are you not asking to be raised? you got min raised and flatted with no idea where you're at in the hand and awkward stack sizes
jam turn as played and pray to hit?
winnaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaar
never going broke in a limped pot applies to when you flop one pair.
Brent, as I stated before, it's gonna look bad and it's not standard at all but live play is so passive usually that a 4bet shove on the flop from mp1 is gonna tell you that you're just so crushed. If the donk crazy gambler ships I am obv snapcalling.
The more standard line is probably just to play for stacks on the flop with only 60bbs to start the hand, which is fine and profitable, but I think my line is a little better in the long run.
Certainly up for debate as I know I'm going to sound a bit donkish for suggesting such a weird and terrible sounding line, but it's pretty good for low stakes live play.
