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Old 09-06-2016, 12:44 PM   #1
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2/5 NL: line check against a tight player

V(UTG,$700): 60s white man in wheel chair. regular. Play tight in general but saw him floating with pocket pair and hit set on turn before.

Pre flop: V limps, MP limps. Hero(BTN,1500) raises to 30 with QsQd. Only V calls.

FLOP(70):QhKc9d
V checks. Hero bets 35. V raises to 100. Hero thinks a little bit and calls.
Put him on AK, KQ, possible 99, TJs(Unlikely)
Turn(270):Th
V bets 100. Hero calls.
River(470):T
V bets 100. Hero raises to 350.
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Old 09-06-2016, 12:47 PM   #2
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Re: 2/5 NL: line check against a tight player

I might have bet a little more on the flop, but otherwise I like it. Nice river.

(You could raise turn, but I don't think he's folding a J, ever, and I don't want him to fold worse.)
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Old 09-06-2016, 01:04 PM   #3
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Re: 2/5 NL: line check against a tight player

Meh, i reraise flop on this texture. I have a ton of pair plus open enders in my range he folds to and we get called by worse enough.

Got to look at this hand as playing your range and not your 2 cards
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Old 09-06-2016, 01:33 PM   #4
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Re: 2/5 NL: line check against a tight player

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Got to look at this hand as playing your range and not your 2 cards
This isn't exactly true IMO. I'm playing it to maximize winnings from my opponent. Older men seem to just look at their hand and decide to go with it if it's good enough without regards to what you are holding, and a set of queens is likely ahead of his flop raising range. JT (sometimes slowplayed), KQ, K9, Q9, 99, maybe a slowplayed KK is his likely raising range and you are well ahead of that range. I don't see old men semi-bluff or stone bluff this flop with pair+straight draws, they almost always call.

As such, I re-raise on the flop. You're likely ahead and while I don't think there are many turn cards that you are scared of, how does the old man react when a 10, J, or A comes on the turn? You need to pile in the money now because I never see folds here from the described villain but I see folds when a bad card rolls off on the turn.
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Old 09-06-2016, 01:38 PM   #5
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Re: 2/5 NL: line check against a tight player

I think raising the flop just folds worse.
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Old 09-06-2016, 01:58 PM   #6
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I think raising the flop just folds worse.
It's definitely opponent-dependent, but in my experience old men just don't fold two pair or better, no matter how clear it is they are beat.

Against many other opponent-types I'd probably advocate just calling the flop raise.
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Old 09-06-2016, 02:19 PM   #7
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Re: 2/5 NL: line check against a tight player

What's the question here ? You basically flop the nuts ? I would have to go with my read buy most likely re-raising him on the flop, you want to get max value here against his two pairs 999 and pair + straight draw type hands.
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Old 09-06-2016, 03:50 PM   #8
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Re: 2/5 NL: line check against a tight player

I like going close to full pot on flop to get stacks in by the river. As played, why not shove river? It seems like a ridiculous bet but V isn't going to fold 99 here for any amount.
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