5/10 has not been running in Connecticut until the past week. So I had played very little deepstack nl in a while. Also, the place where I was playing does not like, ever, have 5/10 (Mohegan Sun).

Extremely nitty reg opens 40 utg. Good pro flats hijack. Nitty Asian fish on tilt calls cutoff I defend 66 in the sb.

Flop 976dd. UTG cbets 120 pro raises to 380 fairly quickly (2.5k eff w me) Asian guy in cutoff flats (I think he had ~1.5k). After the HJ raises I'm like 100% confident utg is done with the hand.

Hero?

I think the pro is a really competent player. I hadn't played with him before but he seemed to handle his chips very well, was ISOing the whale a lot, and knew that PLHE on stars was a goldmine.

Do you happen to remember which cards were which suits and if possible the suits of your own cards?

Is the pro loose pre? Can you even expect to find suited gappers there like T8s?

Pretty disgusting spot if it goes wrong but very profitable otherwise, initial reaction is to raise to 1 k/cry like hell call vs pro. I hate it when there's a big possibility that you have 5-10 % when the money goes in but playing avoiding the worst scenario isn't the most profitable line. If I could just narrow 4-bet range down to sets I would obviously 3-bet/fold here.

For me flatting is out of the question OOP when there's a tilting guy in a pot with a medium SPR in a multiway pot.

Hand happened really late into session and after plo broke at foxwoods I don't remember what the suits were. I think it was 97ss6x I don't remember my suits though.

Pro 100% has T8s this deep. There was also a whale on button which may make him wide.

The other is like visibly tilting and pretty stuck but I can't tell if he's actually playing any differently or still being a nit.

Why is flatting out of the question? I can get it in on most turns.

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Because there are way too many bad turns in multiway pot for your hand (T, 8, 5, d, 3). Others kill your action from worse (7,6,9). It's much easier for your opponents to play optimally on the turn. You're still going broke vs the hands that beat you on the flop on rest of the turns.

Also the nitty tilty player is pretty much priced in to call with a lot of draws if the pro folds and much more likely to do so without correct odds. He/she can safely fold blank turn if you bet.

On the flop pro needs like 1-2 combos of hands that don't have you beat on the flop when he shoves to make calling 4-bet better than folding (JdTd,Ad8d, two pairs or something).

What made me most worried about continuing in hand was the CO. If he had folded I would've just stacked versus the pro without thinking about it. Felt like since he called pre he's more likely to have a set/2pr than a draw (like I don't think he calls pre J8s) and he'd just rip a Fd/pair+straight draw.

He's also not folding with 1k back when both of us start shoveling money in.

Scenario where my hand improves and I win pot is good...calling 380 to win ~1250...i boat 22% or whatever. I was worried about reverse implied odds though (lol plo)

Yeah, bottom set is likely the best hand on the flop. You're a huge leader against any draws, shovel money in. If they CO really has you beat here enough for you to worry about it, I would consider straight up folding instead of calling.

Multiway-pot on a drawy board OOP is just a recipe for disaster in NLH.

Unpopular opinion, but I think PLO is bad for NLH skills and vice versa.

I think plo skills were actually pretty helpful cause I was able to figure out my equity versus the hand ranges pretty quickly. E.g. I figured I was up against A8s+98/67 minimum.

I folded btw.

Suppose I had continued. Turn: black 9

If you raise you're most likely against only one of those hands, not both Quite often you actually take the pot down on the flop. Also in plo that can be in one hand, here you're essentially tripling your money.

I mean it's not the worst option but if the CO opponent is even slightly tilted meaning that he has a looser calling range especially here on the flop than he should (more cards to come so a lot of hands like 98,87,86 maybe that should fold). If CO had a really strong hand, wouldn't he just 3-bet himself? There's 380 raise+290 in the pot, he only has 1500 stack. If pro has a good piece of that flop, he's almost pot committed. No need to get tricky and maybe invite more people in.

Pro's raising range is strong here on the flop, but it still contains a lot of semibluffs which is additional reason why I really don't like giving free cards by flatting also. There's no way that he does this without outs. However what worries me much more is the really awkward stack sizes. By raising you end up committing to a pot where you have to call of the shove. But since CO flatted which I think is actually sign of a strong, but not nutty hand and some hands that he should fold (tilt), there's too much dead money in the pot for me to do anything else but raise/call here.

I obviously don't know these players, I don't know this game. I like folding more than calling.

I hope someone else comments also :/

My first inclination was to muck once CO flats. But IF makes some good points about continuing. Any reason why you didn't lead flop?

Wow .. There is no way I am folding on such a drawy flop to that action, but I don`t even think that you played it bad. I think I am calling OTF and I am leading on brick turns the amount that V2 has left.

Turn: Let`s say you call OTF .. I am leading smallish to keep their draws in, maybe 400 ..

Playing a baby pocket pair deep against multiple, tight opponents is asking for this situation. What, exactly, would you hope for on the flop BESIDES bottom pair?

Fold looks good to me. If you don't fold, you're basically committed for all of it (otherwise, why are you here instead of working for a living?) and since you are up against such a wide variety of possible draws--straight, flush, 2 pair drawing to a higher full house--it makes sense to try to buy a few outs with a huge raise right away.

Pfr is cbetting 100% after opening UTG on 9hi flop and sets me up for check raise. LP players will peel wide too. Another reason is I didn't want to get flatted by 2-3 players and be lost on majority of turns OOP.

Reg probably has T8o in preflop range this deep. I mean you guys keep calling this flop super drawy but like he has 22 nut combos and I'm basically dead against 6 of them. I'm too tired to do this myself rn but realistically how many combo draws that I'm flipping with does he have?

Bad Lobster: Idk I hope a flop a better hand than the 5th nuts on a board where I'm flipping against stuff I'm ahead of. It's a pretty massive leak to just look at absolute strength of hand (which isn't even that high on this board....effective 4th nuts) and just put in 250bb against potentially 3ppl.

I think we are looking to flop bottom set on a better board like Q86r or K96r. Perhaps this sitch argues for not even playing the hand OOP deep simply because we won't flop BS enough in good spots to want to play for 250bb's...Idk if that is logical or not.

OP, OK on the thoughts about CR...I thought that would be the process. But you might be able to lead the flop, get raised and potentially be able to comfortably shove while eliminating one or more of your opponents who are drawing. Maybe not, but seems like it is worth a shot given the spot we are now in (I know, Monday QB...).

Lead is my default line here. Not sure of ev difference but I agree leading would've been better. I think check raise is OK tho. Can't be a mistake for that to be plan in hand.

If we can't call a pair preflop in 100+bb poker facing a single raise the game is completely dead and we should all quit.

If I knew that the money was going in, I would insta-fold this hand. But I don't. What I see is a lot of dead money in the middle most likely.

this is a good spot to start building a donking range for oop since this texture will get checked alot from ip

I m all in.

There are 6 cards that boat you on the turn and 1 that makes you quads, so it's more like 15% to improve going into the turn. 33% to fill up by the river. but you are drawing to the underfull and it's not entirely unlikely someone has two pair right now.

Op, 5/10 doesn't run at the woods during the week? I was there last Tuesday, Todd, Justin A and Asian kid John s were playing 4 handed...

I know JTL and Ronnie m play a lot of stud but surely 5/10 NL is still happening regularly during the week? Please explain your experience


Oth. I like shoving, your hand is likely best but vulnerable, time to get value from dd, 8x, a lot of pair and SD type hands. Get it in

I'm at the woods every day playing 2/5 plo and I check bravo regularly. Just look at the bravo to see that 5/10nl isn't running. That game you described sounds kinda crappy don't want to say who the spot is cause I did see it running. Both JA and JS were in Vegas all summer. Just not having two regs around is enough to not get a game going. Even getting 5/5 plo going is hard and I gave up on it cause it I'm tired of dealing with the floor.

Last Wednesday was gonna sit 5/10 but two spots left and then it's 6handed with lucas, Matty, Todd, a 2/5 nl reg, and some random Asian guy and the lucas says it's mandatory straddle (******ed in capped buyin games that are mostly regs for reasons I don't want to get into) so I drove to Mohegan to eat dinner.

JTL hasn't played 5/10nl all summer AFAIK. Dunno who Ronnie is I moved to CT this summer.

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Results: reg bet calls turn and loses to 7s full. He didn't show and I found out later that he's type to muck a straight without reacting. But also as wide as 96s pre at this stack depth.

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guess id just snap it in here and hope for the best